Escher's Relativity is doable

[Sirius]

I have never experimented with setFlags() and sendToClients() because well... their settings are the same in every Python file, just as you are setting them. Plasma.py tells us the following about setFlags():

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    def setFlags(self, name, sendImmediate, skipOwnershipCheck):
        pass


So I guess flag 1 makes sense for those two. setFlags() is always paired with sendToClients() which sends a new value to all players.

Does that help ?

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def sendToClients(self,key):
    """Sets it so changes to this key are sent to the
server AND the clients. (Normally it just goes
to the server.)"""
    pass
def setFlags(self,name,sendImmediate,skipOwnershipCheck):
    """Sets the flags for a variable in this SDL"""
    pass


It still doesn't explain well how setFlag works however.

(Sirius, did you really manage to get Mouse drags captured? If yes, how? I was only able to detect key presses.)

Actually... no, I couldn't get the value of the mouse being dragged. I could only get notifies of it (mouse clicks are considered as control keys). There might be a way to detect its position, but it seems you can only detect it through GUI draggables (or maybe special clickables)... so that won't be a neat way. I'll check again if there is no better way.

[tachzusamm]

No, I mean this Blender setting in "Book"...

Oh, that. Yes, the AgeSDLHook is setup as it should.

From what I can see you have everything set correctly so I don't know where that reset is coming from. Can you show us the full Python code?

Sure.
I wanted to do some Refactoring first. This piece of software for the Transporters is no longer just a simple script - it growed to about 1800 lines of Python until now. Including comments, excluding glue.

By the way, I now implemented a zooming / moving function for the simple type camera, which normally can only set its FOV, so it did not move over the avatar's head when zooming in. Now it does, and it does smoothly. I was not able to trap the mousewheel, so we have to use "+" and "-" on NumPad, but it works.

Plus, and that was something I thought never possible with simple cams, I managed to let the subworld-camera avoid walls. So, in other words, the camera maintains its line-of-sight. Written from scratch in Python, using the new zooming capabilities. It does not avoid colliders, but directly checks the LOS, and moves forward when a wall is in the way, until the avatar can be seen again.

Regarding the false SDL state on Age start: I check now for being solo on Age load, so the effect does not appear offline any longer, but the value is still set on start, when it should be cleared. Has to be checked online, I guess.

Okay, enough told.
So here comes the full package.

I think its time to release it, because others are waiting to contribute.

Blender Sources (including commented sources of Python code):
Relativity_V1.4_SRC.rar

And just the Age:
Relativity_V1.4.zip

When contributing: Please do read the documentation I wrote in Blender.
When playing: Please always keep your Relto book with you!
And, as said above: Use '+' and '-' for zooming in SubWorlds (you start in main, btw.)

Thank you,
~Tach

EDIT: Link to the Transporter script only:
relaTransport_V1.5_py.zip

(Edit2: Blender sources link updated to RAR because ZIP had errors.)

[diafero]

Wow, that's great... especially the LOS stuff sounds promising, you seem to have a good hand with the Python API

However, using those keys is a bit dangerous... Offline KI's flymode also uses them. Not sure how this will end up.

[D'Lanor]

Very cool to play with this.

I have been trying to debug that pesky SDL variable for hours but I haven't found anything that could cause it to reset.

At one point I even "corrected" the reversed version order in the sdl file itself. It has the latest version at the top while the advice, which can be found in some sdl files, clearly states that it must be at the bottom. Well, apparently that makes no difference (at least offline).

So maybe we should just call this a bug in the singleplayer game for now, which you have already created a workaround for. Let's see if it behaves better online in a multiplayer environment.

[Karkadann]

Wow Im still getting lost in it, Structures I can do Programing and coding is still a bit of a mystery But you Guys did a great Job thanks, It was the Very first age I started with Way back in AutoCad and with Your Guys's help It turned out better then I could have imagined.
Since this has become a community thing do we have any plans on releasing this on the DI Shard and the UAM with the rest of the fan Ages,

Thanks again.

Kark

[tachzusamm]

However, using those keys is a bit dangerous... Offline KI's flymode also uses them. Not sure how this will end up.

It will just execute both: Your up/down movement, and my zooming (IF you are in a subworld). Nothing dangerous, it does not harm.
Only a bit unexpected, though; so I included a detection of your Offline KI's flymode, and when it's activated, I just skip the zooming.
See update below.

At one point I even "corrected" the reversed version order in the sdl file itself. It has the latest version at the top while the advice, which can be found in some sdl files, clearly states that it must be at the bottom. Well, apparently that makes no difference (at least offline).

Now that you mention it: I *thought* I saw it reversed in an SDL example, but can't find it anymore. Maybe I just dreamt it.
I tried to find out in the Plasma sources how it's treated, but did not really understand the process. And this would only help for MOUL, of course.
So to be safe, I reorganized it as well now. See update below.

So maybe we should just call this a bug in the singleplayer game for now, which you have already created a workaround for. Let's see if it behaves better online in a multiplayer environment.

Since this has become a community thing do we have any plans on releasing this on the DI Shard and the UAM with the rest of the fan Ages,

Yes, I would love to see this happen. Karkadann, you mentioned it would be better to release a "finished product" only, but this can again take a while - and to be honest, I can't wait to see lots of players walking on the stairs in Relativity.
So let's find a date for putting it online.
This weekend?


Update of Python source:
relaTransport_V1.6_py.zip

Update of Age files (Python and SDL):
relaUpdate_Python_SDL_2011_09_29.zip

[diafero]

It will just execute both: Your up/down movement, and my zooming (IF you are in a subworld). Nothing dangerous, it does not harm.
Only a bit unexpected, though; so I included a detection of your Offline KI's flymode, and when it's activated, I just skip the zooming.
See update below.

Actually when I tried it, the +/- keys did not work at all... but maybe that is jsut some wine bug again [EDIT: They are working now, never mind]
Btw, how are you detecting Flymode? I should mark this somewhere to be sure I do not change that API... xUserKI* did not provide any API guarantees so far (the only file meant to be used externally was xLinkMgr, where everything internal starts with "_").

[tachzusamm]

I detected it using this piece of code:

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# In the beginning of the file:
doCheckFlymode = True
try:
    import xUserKIFlymode
except:
    doCheckFlymode = False

# later when I react on + and -:
        if (action == kCamZoomIn):  # reaction on "+"
            if doCheckFlymode:  # check for Flymode
                if len(xUserKIFlymode.flyingObjects): return
            self.CameraZoomIn()   # do the zooming


[Corvus]

This age looks great. I love the view you get when sitting on the bench. The transporters are really cool. Can't wait to explore with others.

I would like to have a look on the blend file, but unfortunately I get an error while depacking:"CRC_Fehler in Relativity\Relativity_087.blend. Die Datei ist fehlerhaft." I downloaded several times and also tried the repair function, but it didn't help.

[Sirius]

Tachzusamm, Karkadann, all your work is incredible !
I just tested this Age, it is really wonderful ! The models/textures are great, and so does all the animations, subworlds, etc.
I was completely lost in there.
There are still minor bugs with camera, but that's not too annoying. Maybe you should try to increase the camera acceleration/zoom.

It just misses some ambiance sounds, a calm music, and a sky.

+1