Age Registration

[boblishman]

As for a new set of Sequence Prefixes being issued at the ULM site, this is the first time I hear about it. Again, the only registry is at Alcugs.

that's the point ... it's NOT ... there is one at the ULM site ... it's been there for months ... and so, this leads to confusion for anyone new coming here ...

As for there being only one in the future ... well ... that's why this "problem" needs addressing by the GoW Councillors

[Robert The Rebuilder]

Sure. 173 is the first available slot. Here's the info:

Hex: 0x0000AD
Num: 173
Filename: beacon
Name: Age of Beacon
Author: greendragoon

OK - it's done.

boblishman: I've been all over the ULM site, but I don't see the list of sequence prefixes that you're talking about. The only thing I saw was, under my profile, a button to request sequence prefixes. Is that what you're referring to?

[Trylon]

OK, I agree that we need to discuss this.

A few points:
- The registry at Alcugs only registers sequence prefixes up to 9999
- ULM issues unique sequence prefixes above 10000 - there is no room for conflicts between the two registries.

- I agree that the registration of sequence prefixes on the ULM website is a bit vague, it was added because of a request made months ago, but after that it faded a bit

- I don't agree that we should use the registry at alcugs just "because it was there first".
- Moreso, I think that we should leave that registry for what it is, and start using the 10000+ addresses. (Which aren't on the alcugs "registry") to avoid conflicts. We can set up a system that manages those numbers a bit more effectively than a wiki system that anyone can edit.

[Trylon]

boblishman: I've been all over the ULM site, but I don't see the list of sequence prefixes that you're talking about. The only thing I saw was, under my profile, a button to request sequence prefixes. Is that what you're referring to?

It's in the "my profile" section.

you can only see the numbers that you have registered yourself.

[Aloys]

I've always been a big supporter of centralizing stuff for Age creators. So I can only agree about moving the list here..

I don't want to rake up any more animosity over the "fork" ... but, come on guys, either bite the bullet and "fork" ... or don't, and work alongside Alcugs. Personally, I am happy to go with whatever decision is made (I had no involvement with Alcugs and have only been involved in Age creation since late 2007) but, this issue is eventually going to come back and "bite us on the bum".

It totally agree.

Sequence prefixes were actually requested and allocated by the tool that created the new content

hmm this actually a very good point. While we can't have Blender access an online DB, we could however have it display a pop-up at some point warning the user to make sure he has registered a unique ID. This should probably be done when you first add the alcscript...

You can't have two sequence prefix registries. There's already one at Alcugs. We can't start a new one unless the other one shuts down, and there's no reason for it to shut down.

I don't agree; we have a reason to shut it down if enough of us decide to. It's one of the last remaining thing that's left at Alcugs, and there's no valid reason to leave it there. Also for people to be able to edit the list they are required to register there, which could be avoided if the list was here. We could just recreate the list here, and on the alcugs page only leave a link pointing here.. Again though this is not very important, what is important is that it is clear to the age creators that an ID has to be registered..

[boblishman]

Well, if it's any help, the way it used to work with my other content creation was really simple. The analagy would be as follows:

1) You created an account with the database site (you have to at the moment to upload to the ULM Library ... so that's already done )

2) You request a Sequency prefix (or a block of them, maybe 5 or 10)

3) When you create your Age, you register the Age Name against one of your allocated Sequency Prefix numbers (possibly via the ULM ?) This is checked agianst the data base in real time and you are given a "green light" if there is no pre-existing Age with the same name.

4) The data base automtically updates itself with the new Age name & sequence prefix ... and these are displayed (alphabetically) along with the date, username and sequency prefix number on a webpage that can be accessed by anyone (account holder or not)

Yes, I know it's more work for someone (sorry Trylon ) but it really needs to be done.

As for the the Alcugs site having the first 9999 prefixes ... fine, what's the problem ? ... however, maybe we should limit ours to the same (10000 - 19999) ... that seems fair to me ... (I think it will be a while before we have 20,000 ages to play with ) and then no-one (Gow or Alcugs) can be accused of trying to monopolise the situation ...

[greendragoon]

Sure. 173 is the first available slot. Here's the info:

Hex: 0x0000AD
Num: 173
Filename: beacon
Name: Age of Beacon
Author: greendragoon

OK - it's done.

boblishman: I've been all over the ULM site, but I don't see the list of sequence prefixes that you're talking about. The only thing I saw was, under my profile, a button to request sequence prefixes. Is that what you're referring to?

Thank you, Robert.

Now all I have to do is contact Cyan and get my FCAL. That, and actually finish my age.

Man, this thread has grown a lot bigger that I thought it would. But oh well, I suppose this is one of those issues that had to be addressed soon or later.

[Nynaveve]

Would you guys like to add this to the list of things to discuss at the meeting tomorrow?

[Trylon]

sounds like a good idea Nyn.

[Chacal]

- The registry at Alcugs only registers sequence prefixes up to 9999
- ULM issues unique sequence prefixes above 10000 - there is no room for conflicts between the two registries.

Ah, that's good. Then there is no problem with starting a new registry. I'm all for centralizing everything here too.

I don't agree; we have a reason to shut it down if enough of us decide to. It's one of the last remaining thing that's left at Alcugs, and there's no valid reason to leave it there.

Well there's the fact that we don't control it.