The "forgotten" Guild of Linguist

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Re: The "forgotten" Guild of Linguist

Postby Trylon » Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:55 am

Ok, to everyone who wants to literally (OOOC) write an age in text, and thinks it would be any good:
Try your hand at VRML.

After you did it once or twice, I think you don't really want it anymore.
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Re: The "forgotten" Guild of Linguist

Postby Jojon » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:18 am

EDIT: This is in response to sonic'son (/me posts too slow :9)

He was referring to the native languages of people on newly linked ages and this is where the linguists are in their right element - figuring out (OOC: creating) those strange languages, which would in other words not come from Cyan - I am sure they are busy as it is.

I think you are taking the in-character-ness of the art of book-writing a few steps too far and into the OOC realm, here. Anyone who sets out to "write a descriptive book", will have a basic concept description, before putting cursor to grid, whether actually written down, or just in her/his head, but to actually write down a fully fledged description-simulcra in words, at this point, where things may change who-knows-how-much? -Naah.
I also expect the D'ni writers would have a good grasp on the already known Gahrohevtee, that they were using and wouldn't need to visit the linguists for approval - that is not what linguists do. Proofreading of drafts would no doubt have been an affair for the guild masters.
I am sure, though, that writers of all levels would no doubt be bumping into members of various guilds all the time, fishing for specialist advice and peer review. I am also sure the writer's hall saw more guest lecturers than any of the others.
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Re: The "forgotten" Guild of Linguist

Postby sonic'son » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:44 pm

if i understand well, youre true :)

ît was just to know what the GoW think about that ;)

and then, the description that i give is not really clos from the real IIIC age creation ... :lol:


i just cant wait for the live start again, and see what's hapen 8-)

anyone have an idea for a time ??

tomorrow ? in one month ? in one year ?
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Re: The "forgotten" Guild of Linguist

Postby MystMan » Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:37 pm

Jojon wrote:I also expect the D'ni writers would have a good grasp on the already known Gahrohevtee


What do you mean, the already known Gahrohevtee- we have only speculation currently, so far as I know. Cyan hasn't released anything. But I'll admit, while it would be cool to be able to see the rest of the Book and the description that makes it up, how many people do you think are going to take the time to look at it, much less translate it? If we wanted to, we could do random (but plausible, just in case) strings of letters and no one would be the wiser, very few even if they were obviously not plausible.
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Re: The "forgotten" Guild of Linguist

Postby Jojon » Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:43 am

MystMan wrote:
Jojon wrote:I also expect the D'ni writers would have a good grasp on the already known Gahrohevtee


What do you mean, the already known Gahrohevtee- we have only speculation currently, so far as I know.


Well, yes, WE would have to go all linguist and reverse-engineer them, with or without the Rehevkor to lean on, but to the writers of old, they were well known. Double-OOC, I don't know that we even have so much as speculation..? :7

How did *we* learn to write, IC? -I chose to avoid touching upon that matter, since it turned out to be somewhat of a can of worms, when someone tried to make a big deal out of it, at an early stage. There is a thread on the subject in the forum history, somewhere. :7

If Cyan elects to provide an IC excuse for our sudden abilities, I am sure everyone will be happy to embrace it -- if they don't; I for one will just go with the flow - I tend to think things often get a good bit *too* IC around Uru, anyways. :)
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Re: The "forgotten" Guild of Linguist

Postby MystMan » Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:57 pm

Oh, I see what you're saying, now. I just got excited, because I thought there was something *new* that had come out that I hadn't heard about. There's a whole big thread on the DLF about what Gahrohevtee might be. And when I say speculation, I mean th ideas of the individual, really... I have a few little ideas about what the Gahrohevtee might be. Two of them are shared among a lot of others, and the third is highly unlikely. Ha ha.

I actually did see that thread when I first joined. Here's a good idea of how we learned to Write, though: The writers were given exclusive access to certain Ages by the DRC, and every time we perused the books, looking for commonalities and then we used what little we found to experiment, and eventually we found out how, because we also went off the BoA and found a bunch of blank books and ink. lol.

That would take forever, but we managed to accelerate the process, right? lol.
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Re: The "forgotten" Guild of Linguist

Postby sonic'son » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:37 am

There's a whole big thread on the DLF about what Gahrohevtee might be



yes but what we need is something official... and it's easy to do :)

because we have to follow some rules to be legal towards cyan...

and i think if we have to write some D'ni text in our ages, it is better if we have an official paper that cyan has approuved...

Because what i'm sure is :

that they can make it for the D'ni langage

But i'm less sure, if there is a Gahrohevtee already made in Cyan desk :)
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Re: The "forgotten" Guild of Linguist

Postby Jojon » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:22 am

MystMan wrote:...I just got excited, because I thought there was something *new* that had come out that I hadn't heard about...


Sorry to disappoint. :7

I can't other than think, though, that they have to be some very basic, low level thing, in order to be able to group up, to precisely describe concepts and configurations, out of infinite possibilities. Yet, sometimes something said, makes them come off as the opposite; very complex -- I just can't imagine how that could be. :7

I am sure that should RAWA ever concieve and publish erthgahrohevtee, there'd be a group of people picking their grammatical framework apart, looking for illogical design and demanding an answer to why they don't yield a linking panel, when used in writing. ;)
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Re: The "forgotten" Guild of Linguist

Postby MystMan » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:55 am

I think that nothing that powerful could be simple... You know what I mean? My strongest theory is that they're just what the name implies: great <i>words</i>. Simply words with certain meaning, words that aren't used in everyday speech and writing, but are reserved to the Art.

But Sonic'son, I wasn't referring to anything official. I was simply referring to where the speculation is. So we do have a lot of speculation, but you're right, we do need something official.

I know there would be people picking apart Gahrohevtee's design and grammar, but do you seriously think people would seriously wonder why these words didn't actually <i>create</i> Ages (or should I say Books?) OOC?
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Re: The "forgotten" Guild of Linguist

Postby andylegate » Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:58 pm

:D Sorry, but my sense of humor just kicked in.....

I think that nothing that powerful could be simple...


E = MC^2

Very simple.......and VERY powerful!

:lol:
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