An idea......

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An idea......

Postby andylegate » Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:41 pm

While burning up the keyboard today making the Drizzle instructions..I had a glimmer of an idea.

It would be nice if after we convert our MOUL Ages we could just go to where we know the linking books are to get there, but I have no idea how to put them inplace. Importing like Ae'gura and exporting it....makes me wince pretty bad. Hehehe.
I don't know if there is another way of doing it either.

What got me to thinking about this, was the fact that I always forget to print out the key layout for linking, then end up hunting and pecking.....
Of course I converted the MOUL K'veer (wow! Except the tiles in the main room with the big window are a bit washed out, still I half expected to find Chacal there where I left him when MOUL shut down! hehe :D , also the linking book podium for Myst isn't there, more than likely because it's a SDL variable....), there is no Shift whatever key to get there..

Still, I used the ULM to get there. I used PlasmaShop to change the sequence number. Loaded up the ULM and put K'veer on my shelf, then opened up PlasmaShop again to change the sequence number back again. Works great.

Until you load up the ULM again, and then POOF, your book or books for the MOUL Ages are gone.

I'm sure with some tweeking or something we could fix that, except I don't know how to do that either.

Then it hit me. What I DO know how to do: Create Ages. And create Linking Books.

I was thinking I could make a simple Library Ag--------OOPS. Sorry! I forgot that name for an Age is a NO-NO! hehehe.
Okay, I was thinking I could make a simple, outhouse with a shelf that has linking books in it. Said linking books will link you to your MOUL Ages....IF you have converted them. If not, you won't link.

I can use D'Lanor's template to do this no problem. And making a simple Nexus like Age should be simple....minus the complex Nexus machine of course.

I could put in on the ULM. After you've converted some of your MOUL Ages, you can download this "MOUL Nexus" book from the ULM, and put it on the far end of your Relto Book shelf. It will always be there. You link in an use the linking books there to get to your MOUL links.
I can go one step further. I can make it very basic, with not too many textures, and then post both the blend file and textures. That way, if you want, you can download it and convert it to your own tastes, a remodel your own MOUL Nexus.

What do you think? Of course there's nothing stopping any of you from making your own Nexus ages from scratch if you want too.
Just an idea. Age that simple should take about a week or less. The Python template will take longer.....simply because I'll need to find my glasses! :D
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Re: An idea......

Postby Nek'rahm » Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:14 pm

Hey Andy?

I got an idea...

Make a small Age like Rime. Little hut on top of a mountain. Open the door and you see a Library shelf similar to Relto.

OR

" except there are podiums in this large circular hut

Each one Links to a different Age.

EX:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

(in a circle)

1 = Eder Delin
2 = Eder Tsogal
3 = Minkata
4 = Jalak Dalor
5 = Negilahn
6 = Dereno
7 = Payiferen
8 = Tetsonot
9 = Kadish Rooftop
10 = K'veer

Something like that? Would be effective enough, yet look cool.
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Re: An idea......

Postby greendragoon » Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:40 pm

I think that's a brilliant idea. :D A very economical solution.
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Re: An idea......

Postby Nek'rahm » Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:47 pm

Plus, just add more floors for more books. Or if Cyan starts Uru up again and they use the same engine... well... you know what I mean.

A failsafe ;)
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Re: An idea......

Postby andylegate » Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:53 pm

Ah, that's the neat thing about it.....as far as we Writers are concerned.....technically we can make our "MOUL Nexus" Age look like anything we want. Something like what Nak'rahm suggested, to something like what D'eux has made, only with a covered dome, to anything really.

The key is the Python file......once I make that, all anyone has to do is make sure hey put in the click region(s) and either name their book object the same as the Python file lists, or simply change the names in the Python file. That's the easy part.....hehe.

If enough Writers do this, they could then share their different kinds of "MOUL Nexus" with others on the ULM if they want, that way Non-Writers can pick or chose their style that they like. Or contract out: hire a Writer (not for money of course, no profiteering ever should be done on this!!), but say, like someone could "Hire" me to make a Nexus Age for them if they offer me a really good box of donuts...... :D :D :D Or I'd do it for free just so they'd spread the word.
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Re: An idea......

Postby Nek'rahm » Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:02 pm

You know what'd be cool?

OBSTACLE COURSE!

Sure you COULD just walk in and use the pedastal right in front of you to reach K'veer...

OR

You could jump lava, wind streams, swim through oceans and climb walls to reach the Minkata book

>>

yea, like anyone'd ever waste that much time on Minkata...
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Re: An idea......

Postby andylegate » Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:07 pm

ROFL!!

Nak'rahm! I said simple Ages!

Well of course if you wanted a nexus Age like that I"m sure someone would build it for you. Still, awful lot of work to get to your Age!

Might as well build some sort of Goldberg machine to get to your linking book ;)

I'm off to bed. hehehe.
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Re: An idea......

Postby greendragoon » Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:22 pm

What if the nexus was in reality the infamous Relto basement. :shock:

/me wishes we could add on to Relto.
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Re: An idea......

Postby Quatermain » Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:41 pm

Well regarding different Nexus looks - speaking IC - I never knew how the Nexus worked anyway. Since I never see anyone there with me and I am never waiting in line.....I think each time we enter Nexus we are not expecting to be standing at the same machine each and every time so - we could have several Nexus loaded so each time we go to Nexus we might see what looks like a different place (in rotation). This way everyone who wishes to create a Nexus can have them shared with everyone.

All the Nexus would link to the same places, though.
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Re: An idea......

Postby D'eux » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:27 am

This is a very interesting idea, and here are my thoughts for what they're worth...

Firstly, it would be ideal if Cyan's position regarding what is currently being distributed as 'MOUL offline' was established and clearance given, so that things could continue openly. I personally feel somewhat uncomfortable with how these files are being made available without Cyan's blessing (yet).

That aside, I also think this could be an excellent inter-GoW member project for release to the larger URU community. It would draw members closer to work on a common project, and also show what can be achieved as a team - like Ahra Pahts does. I'm happy to donate my Remote Age Viewer to a MOUL Nexus Age - several units running pano's of the various Ages, and the Age itself could be built using small contributions from everyone (a plant here, a path there etc.) and the coding for the links and things could be provided by our resident techies/coders.

If the Age was drawn up, various elements could be farmed out to different members to complete and no single individual would be over-burdened with a complete Age to build.

It could be our gift back to the community to help keep MOUL alive.

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