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Re: The Uam Shard!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:58 pm
by Karkadann
Ok now I am confused :oops:

Where did the expression "illegal Shards" come from??

Re: The Uam Shard!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:29 pm
by semplerfi
Karkadann wrote:Where did the expression "illegal Shards" come from??

search of this site shows -

viewtopic.php?f=87&t=3253&p=34402&hilit=illegal+Shards#p34402

:D

Re: The Uam Shard!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:59 pm
by Karkadann
OK then instead bringing up the past perhaps I should rephrase the question

How can one tell an illegal shard from a legal shard.

In layman terms Im not familiar with all the technical stuff

On the lighter side of the news I was driving the Airstream around the Volcano and drove it into the inside corners of the fence and managed to Literally launch it as if from an invisible a trebuchet. Poor Zandi went flying off to the left and the air stream went flying off into the distance only to get stuck in the distant oblivion. Who would have thought that camper of his could fly :D

Re: The Uam Shard!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:39 pm
by J'Kla
Maybe they are shards that have sneaked over the Mexican border. How about checking them for green cards. :)

That airstream has allways been odd the ones I have allways seen before get towed not driven from the top.

Re: The Uam Shard!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:20 am
by diafero
Each Shard that has a dataserver that serves Cyan files can be considered illegal in the same way the Offline KI can be considered illegal - or, if I remember correctly, the exact term is extralegal, since the copyright holder has to actually sue. It's not like the state can go ahead, like if you robbed someone. But I am not a lawyer.

The Shard admins can try to reduce the number of hosted files. To play on Deep Island, you technically need to buy TPOTS or get it from some other source. Or he can put them all on the dataserver and hope for people to be honest and not try to get them all from there, so that technically, one could get them all from the server. That will save him a lot of potential trouble caused by modified/broken clients.

I am sorry for implying this is as bad as what Dhel did. Technically, downloading them here is even more comfortable than downloading them in an archive. But the intention is different, very different.
It his however, in my eyes, still a big concern, for the files are still hosted and freely available.

Re: The Uam Shard!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:48 am
by Tsar Hoikas
*Cough* Put the hash of the file in the manifest but don't upload the file *Cough*

File not present? Youfail.
File present? Incorrect? Youfail.
File present? Correct? :D

Re: The Uam Shard!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:17 am
by diafero
Unfortunately, this will not work, Hoikas. The client will notice that the file is incorrect, attempt to download, see it is not on the dataserver - and think "well then, I don't care" and go on linking.

Re: The Uam Shard!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:25 am
by Karkadann
So the Shards themselves legal but some of the files with in the shards are illegal.

or

Its OK because Cyan has never sued us?

edit to add

or perhaps more accurately the Artist that make up Cyan has never sued us.

Re: The Uam Shard!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:45 am
by Egon
Karkadann wrote:It's OK, because Cyan has never sued us.

A love this sentence.
It's sums up quite well the whole Age Builders activity ;)

Re: The Uam Shard!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:48 am
by Karkadann
From what I understand an artist very seldom Tries to repress the work of another artist