Enhancing Wiki Tutorials

[Lyrositor]

Offline KI: Hmm, yeah... It's kind of a misnomer too, IMO (well it is technical documentation, but it doesn't convey a sense of... tutoriality? ). Maybe it could turn into Using Offline KI instead, and that's what I had in mind for it: what do with the software, how to do it, etc. This might also include portions of Offline KI:Features (which IMHO should solely be a list of features, and not a tutorial page). It would also link to Offline KI:Commands for a full list of things to do.

Drizzle: Righto, guess that's what happen when you just look quickly over three hundred articles. I'll make sure to remove it. And yes, it is covered, so yet another reason to do away with it (I think it's Max:Exporting).

CWE & Plasma: Okay, good point. How about this: Plasma is the main article (I mean... why redirect to Plasma 101? ), CWE/CyanWorlds.com Engine is a redirect to the "Open-Source" section, and the rest is basically the same as Plasma 101? Sort of like what I had started here: http://lyros.ath.cx/wiki/CyanWorlds.com_Engine. This way information about pure Plasma is preserved, and it's also linked with open-source.

[diafero]

Offline KI: Hmm, yeah... It's kind of a misnomer too, IMO (well it is technical documentation, but it doesn't convey a sense of... tutoriality? ). Maybe it could turn into Using Offline KI instead, and that's what I had in mind for it: what do with the software, how to do it, etc. This might also include portions of Offline KI:Features (which IMHO should solely be a list of features, and not a tutorial page). It would also link to Offline KI:Commands for a full list of things to do.

Well, it's called "technical documentation" since it started as such . However, this is only the part of "Using Offline KI" for age developers, opposed to the features site which is essentially "Using Offline KI" for explorers.
Where does a feature description end and a tutorial start? IMHO, for example, to describe the feature "Flymode", I have to list the keybindings. To describe image import and export, I have to say how this is done. Which almost makes it a tutorial.

Drizzle: Righto, guess that's what happen when you just look quickly over three hundred articles. I'll make sure to remove it. And yes, it is covered, so yet another reason to do away with it (I think it's Max:Exporting).

I fixed the link to go to the appropriate subsection of the Drizzle page instead.

CWE & Plasma: Okay, good point. How about this: Plasma is the main article (I mean... why redirect to Plasma 101? ), CWE/CyanWorlds.com Engine is a redirect to the "Open-Source" section, and the rest is basically the same as Plasma 101?

Sounds good

EDIT: I also created an initial short version of "Distributing Ages" just to make sure people don't stumble upon this non-working link on the "Tutorials" page and are confused . I know it's all WIP, but then it's also in live usage.

[Lyrositor]

For everyone looking at this thread, we discussed the Offline KI articles in IRC. We reached the following conclusions:
1. No conclusion was reached.
2. We'll conclude much later.
In meantime, though, I've finished the new Plasma article.
And now... (drumroll please)... I'm going to tackle PyPRP:Getting Started, the behemoth article. It looks pretty huge right now, but I think I can trim out unnecessary parts. At worst I can split it up into sub articles (PyPRP:Getting Started/Lighting for example), but I don't think that will be necessary. For one things, all Blender interface-related pictures will no longer be shown on the article - just linked to (as is appropriate for a wiki not on general Blender usage, but on applied Blender usage).

However, I noticed this disclaimer:

This tutorial was written for Blender 2.45.
If you are using Blender 2.46 you will have trouble following the UV mapping part, and other parts.
Feel free to update it to Blender 2.46 if you are so inclined.

Would anyone have the time to tell me what needs updating? Also, if I remember correctly, Blender had a major interface overhaul recently; are all of the screenshots functionally accurate, if not aesthetically correct?

[Deledrius]

Also, if I remember correctly, Blender had a major interface overhaul recently; are all of the screenshots functionally accurate, if not aesthetically correct?

Unfortunately, AFAIK, very little of the current info/photos/etc. apply whatsoever to the new Blender except by chance. The overhaul was very extensive in both visual and workflow.

[D'Lanor]

PyPRP 2, the MOULa compatible version which also works with the new Blender interface, only has a very basic functionality. So any serious age building still has to be done in PyPRP 1.6 with Blender 2.49b (or lower). That is the combination for which the PyPRP tutorials were written and if I am not mistaken it is what most builders are using (hint: you could set up a poll to check if this assumption is correct).
Unfortunately PyPRP 1.6 is not MOULa compatible, so until someone breathes new life into the PyPRP 2 project those who cannot afford Max are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

[Charura]

Those of us that have Max 7 and beyond are okay? In other words, are we stuck at seven for MOUL(a)? I admit, I haven't read the whole thread..sry if this a rhetorical question...

[dendwaler]

Correct D lanor,
Unfortunately that is the current situation.
Besides the money ,i dont want to learn max now i finally master blender.

[Deledrius]

Those of us that have Max 7 and beyond are okay? In other words, are we stuck at seven for MOUL(a)? I admit, I haven't read the whole thread..sry if this a rhetorical question...

Why are Max users stuck at 7? The plugin should work on newer (and available!) version of Max. If it does not, please file a bug report with the appropriate information.

[Lyrositor]

Those of us that have Max 7 and beyond are okay? In other words, are we stuck at seven for MOUL(a)? I admit, I haven't read the whole thread..sry if this a rhetorical question...

Why are Max users stuck at 7?

Deledrius, Charura said "and beyond", so it's not stuck at 7.

[Deledrius]

In other words, are we stuck at seven for MOUL(a)?

Why are Max users stuck at 7?

Deledrius, Charura said "and beyond", so it's not stuck at 7.

It was more this question I was confused on.