Nek'rahm wrote:Hey it's Nek'rahm! Working vigorously to get my money working and get a gold account on GameTap.
Till then, I got a new habit (well... hobby) of analyzing different parts of D'ni history to ask questions here. Plus, I'm doing a book report on the Myst Reader after Christmas. What better way to organize D'ni history?
Okay, few questions:
1) I noticed that Atrus and Catherine lived in an Age called Chroma'Agana. If that was an Age written in K'veer... did Yeesha move the book? Did the DRC Find it? Any info been released on it?
Could have been written there, I expect Atrus took it with him when he escaped the room and moved to Tomahna.
2) If Yeesha, Esher and the Bahro can link from Age to Age without books... they could definetly take Linking Books... or even Descriptive Books and hide them from the DRC and Explorers of Ae'gura. Now... doesn't this mean that Cyan has a limitless amount of ideas to come up with? Doesn't this mean that Yeesha could be hiding so much from us? O_O
Don't need to link at will to be able to hide books, the DRC have a big stock of books to work on, I would expect there is a vast amount of Ages for us to visit.
3) At the end of the opening video for Myst Online: Uru Live, Yeesha says:
Teeshan clouds of death and destruction : Sandstorm maybe? Some kind of second cataclysm to hit Ae'gura?
They come... he comes... and I will come as well...: They come is prolly the Bahro (evil Bahro, der
), I will come is Yeesha. Now, "He comes," erm... is that the Maker? I first thought Phil, but then I heard he's alive in MOUL. Will discuss later.
Titian clouds (as in the colour, hense why the clouds when that line is said are titian in colour
). They = Bahro, He= Seems to indicate Watson but I dunno, he doesn't really seem to be much of an impact so I am holding out for He being someone else, either way He being Phil is unlikely, likewise with the Maker (given that the maker is god).
4) Jeff Zandi... seems very odd what he says:
Hey, welcome, I'm Zandi. 'Prolly know more about why you're here then you do, *snort*, don't worry, you felt called here. Now I'm not really here to give you the answers. Just to... guide you, and get you on your way. She's left you a message in the Cleft. Listen to it. Find the Journeys. Then... enter the tree. Oh, and, come back if you need help.
LOTS to analyze here. First off, his dad was in the DRC... odd he's helping Yeesha. Secondly, "I'm not here to give you answers, just to guide you" this first gave me the idea at the bottom. Next, he also says the RIVEN survivors have a Journey. Never understood what relevance this had, other than the Telescope and Whark bones. Now, RIVEN in English means torn apart violently and without pity. Also, Zandi is gone after you solve the first puzzle of the Cleft (The Journeys... the second one being Yeesha's second recording, the third one being K'veer).
Taking all this, I saw this: Jeff Zandi might be the Maker.
"They come... he comes... and I will come as well." The Least, the Grower, the Maker. Seems very odd all three forces do not follow DRC Guidelines.
What do you all think? I'd like feedback, not only for me, but for my project too
Zandi's father founded the DRF, which later became the DRC, some history for you;
As promised in the "Surfacing" thread...
It has come to my attention that Prof. Jeff Zandi is increasingly getting more and more attention. I'm under the impression that some of the attraction to him is that so little is known about him. In hopes that an unrealistic legend surrounding him is not established (or that those that are beginning are not perpetuated), I've decided to provide a brief glimpse into his background.
To tell this background, it's best to go back about fifteen years. In fact, much of this recent history of D'ni has never been told publicly. Perhaps now is the time.
D'ni was discovered (in the modern era) sometime in 1987, by a gentleman named John "Fighting Branch" Loftin. Almost everyone referred to him as Branch. I don't know the exact date of his discovery, and unfortunately, he isn't around to ask.
Anyway, Branch happened to be fairly close friends with a wealthy archaeologist named Elias Zandi (close friends called him "Eli"). Elias' particular area of expertise and interest was the Southwestern United States.
Elias Zandi was well known in archaeological circles. He had visited a number of sites around the world and procured a number of valuable historical artifacts. He commonly paid top dollar, eccentrically claiming there was some kind of connection between himself and the objects. After a while, he began to focus on Southwest artifacts exclusively, claiming that some of them had a "special mystery". It was during this time that Elias became closely associated with Branch. Branch had a certain knack of finding items that Elias was particularly interested in.
The dam broke loose when, while exploring in some caverns, Branch stumbled upon what we now know were D'ni digging machines. To describe Elias as elated does not come close to portraying the truth. Possessed is possibly a better word. Elias became single minded in his pursuit.
It was 1988, March 19th to be exact, that Branch and Elias made their first trip into the caverns, as documented in Elias' journal. It was a short one, through the entrance, through a small crack, suddenly into D'ni-made tunnels, past the long abandoned diggers, and eventually to the top of the shaft. They returned from that first trip as changed men - Elias writing in his journal, "I have come to a place that I could have never have imagined, and yet it seems I have come home."
It was in 1989, on their third major expedition that they reached the great D'ni cavern and saw the ruined city. Elias' journal stoically describes what they saw, but word has it that he was so overwhelmed that he collapsed to his knees and wept. He realized then that the size of this discovery required him to seek assistance. He made plans to call an old friend.
I had met Elias years before and seen him on numerous expeditions. The two of us, around the same time, but for quite different reasons, began to focus on the southwest U.S. and had several opportunities to work closely together. By 1989, we were fairly close.
After being contacted by Elias, it took me little time to start making plans for a lengthy expedition. I still remember my initial skepticism at his claims, and yet I trusted him, based on our friendship and the information he supplied. At the same time, Elias began the process of purchasing thousands of acres of land surrounding the area where the tunnels had been found. [As a side note, it was also at this time that Elias first contacted the brothers of Rod Miller, a friend of his son Jeff. He wanted to spread the word of his discovery in a very subtle way to others he thought might feel "the call", but I'm getting ahead of myself.]
By the time everything was in place in 1990, Branch, Elias, and myself were ready for our first major expedition to D'ni together. I must admit, with every new thing I saw; with every step I took; the further I got from the surface; the closer I felt to home. That journey ended up lasting more than three weeks and brought the three of us all the way to Ae'gura. It was there we discovered a number of artifacts, including, most importantly, the journals of Catherine.
In 1991, the three of us made another trip, but sadly, Branch did not make it back to the surface. The events of that trip have shaped me, and although I choose not to recount the details, I will note that I broke rules and permitted things that I regret to this day. It was a very trying experience, but neither Elias nor myself could help but continue pushing forward, albeit with some additional care.
By this time we were able to begin translating some of Catherine's journals and other documents that had been found. Elias was passing this information to the Millers on the surface. As information was uncovered, their project shifted from a story about the discovery of the cavern to the stories told by Catherine's journals.
By 1992 things were moving rather quickly. I formed an expeditionary group, with a few of my former colleagues, to perform a much more detailed and lengthy examination of the cavern. (The recruiting stories are amusing - perhaps another time.) Elias did not accompany this group on our trip down. He came down later and met us in the city.
It was this meeting in the city where I realized that Elias and I differed on our views of the future of D'ni. It appeared to me that he was taking some rather extreme view regarding restoring the city to its "original glory" and re-inhabiting it with people who called themselves D'ni. He said things like "We feel the call, for many of us have the blood of D'ni within us, and it calls us home." I must say that I understood some of what he was espousing, but not the extreme to which he was taking it.
Don't misunderstand, I was still committed to the endeavor. D'ni was calling me, maybe not in exactly the way it was calling Elias, but it was calling. So Elias and I continued to work together as he funded the continuing restoration of D'ni. It's interesting to note that from that trip in 1992 until now; the city has never been completely uninhabited.
It was also in late 1992 that I began dividing my time between explorations of the cavern and helping the Miller brothers with their project on the surface. By this time, several of Catherine's journals and many of the other documents we had found had been translated. Elias felt this project would be best served if I were there in person to provide them with information directly. I agreed.
As Elias became more consumed with the restoration, his health began to deteriorate. In 1993 he underwent open-heart surgery, and his doctors warned him to slow down. But his life was tied to the restoration of D'ni, and nothing could slow him down. It would eventually overtake him.
In late 1993 I had the pleasure of bringing Rand, Robyn and Ryan Miller to the city for the first time. They were awed by the place, stating that our descriptions and even photographs of it had not nearly done it justice. This was shortly after their project had been completed, but before it had been released.
Their game Myst, based on the story of Atrus found in Catherine's journals, would go far beyond any of our initial expectations. Elias' desire was not to tell the whole world about D'ni, but rather to specifically spread the word to others who would recognize the tales, even on a subconscious level, and would themselves feel "the call". He expected those who heard the story but didn't feel the call to just dismiss the stories as works of mere fiction. We would all be surprised by the number of people who would feel the call in the years to come.
In 1994 I organized two massive supply trips to move large amounts of supplies and equipment to D'ni. The second trip was affectionately known as the "ice cream" trip because of the number of cones (saftey cones) we brought down.
1995 proved to be rather interesting. It showed the largest spike of small groups of people going out into the desert, looking for a path to D'ni. Invariably, they claimed they were "called" using that same term that we had used. Elias was thrilled. Many of those who came were accepted as volunteers on the restoration project.
In late 1995, November I think, there was another interesting turn of events. Elias had escorted Rand and Robyn back to the city, and Elias' son Jeff was with them. Jeff had been down several times before, but this trip was memorable. Jeff and Elias had a rather large philosophical disagreement over the restoration of the city. Jeff had some strong opinions regarding the path his father was taking and was very vocal. He rather strongly stated that he felt that the restoration was never supposed to be purely physical, but that it was primarily a spiritual renewal. Elias didn't understand that position at all, and the arguments grew heated at many points. As far as I know, the two parted ways after that, and I don't know if they saw each other again.
Sadly, in 1996 my good friend Elias died of a massive heart attack. He left his fortune to the D'ni Restoration Foundation, a nonprofit organization he had established. I was the chair of that foundation and executor of his estate. He left no money to his son, but strangely, he left him the land in New Mexico.
I was somewhat overwhelmed by the responsibility that was thrust on me, and formed the D'ni Restoration Council in January of 1997 to create a group of people to help me oversee the restoration. As time has passed, I've come to be nearly as obsessed with the restoration project as Elias was, tempered by our past mistakes and realizing that this effort must be balanced with a focus on caution.
I've had some contact with Jeff over the years, I even offered him a seat on the DRC, but he refused saying that his vision for the restoration was something beyond what we on the Council could comprehend.
Jeff is a good man; an honest man, and I've always held him in fond regard. Even so, I don't agree with his methods or his misguided vision regarding the restoration of D'ni. That said, I continue to hold out hope that one day we will work together in this grand task.
Dr. Richard A. Watson
Zandi actually says "The Riven remnants have a Journey." which means the remnants from Riven (Whark bones, telescope etc) has a journey cloth on it.
It's not too odd he is following Yeesha, just cause Dad was DRC doesn't mean Jeff would be, people have different views on situations.
Jeff isn't the Maker.
