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Re: Cannot click Relto on pedestal from Cleft

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:18 am
by dendwaler
May be the cleft was left behind partly solved by another player.
If you are currently the only player in the cleft , perform this KI command first , it will reset the age to its initial settings.

/!resetage

That might help you.

Re: Cannot click Relto on pedestal from Cleft

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:33 am
by boblishman
OK, beneath the Cleft tree seems to be screwed up for me too ... with missing graphics and no clickable Relto Book. You cannot reset Cyan Ages (see picture)

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If I create a new player, basically you are "stuck" in the Cleft as there is no way to get the Relto book or link anywhere else. The Chat also doesn't work.

If I go there with my "fully working" avvie, my Relto book is also unusable ...it just has blank pages ???

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Would someone playing on Windows (woollie and I are both using Wineskin) please visit the Cleft cave and see how things are for them (preferably using a newly created avvie.

Thank you!

Bob

Re: Cannot click Relto on pedestal from Cleft

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:05 pm
by woolie
I solved the problem... My thinking may be wrong, but I pondered the fact that the shard was written years ago to the specs of the computers that existed at the time, so that the automatic requirements in the game would try to be using the new hardware capabilities of our current computers & fail (retina screens)... So I went in and lowered all the graphics spec requirements as far as possible & the Deep Island Cleft graphics & linking work great...

I am sure you may able to tweak a few of the settings up depending on you computer...

GRAPHIC SETTINGS
Color Depth - Low 16 bit
Quality - Low
Texture - Low
Full Scene Anti-Aliasing - off
Anisotropic Filtering - off
CONNECTIONS
Update all apps - off
VOICE SETTING
Enable Voice Recording - off
Net broadcast voice- off
Push To Talk - off

I consider the issue close for me... Thanks for posting my concerns

Re: Cannot click Relto on pedestal from Cleft

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:43 am
by boblishman
Ok, I tried woolie's method ..... but, for me, it was without success. :(

Having read back through the thread I'm beginning to wonder if the graphic memory allocation of MACOSX is the real culprit for this bug. I will me meddling with my instal/OS later but would still appreciate ir if any Windows player(s) could check out their cleft cave and report here (good or bad).

Re: Cannot click Relto on pedestal from Cleft

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:54 am
by Sirius
I reinstalled DI and had none of these problems, so it must be an issue with Wineskin failing to emulate DirectX on OpenGL platforms. I had similar issues on an older PC which didn't support DirectX correctly.
Lowering graphics can solve it in some cases... I can't help you further I'm afraid :?
[EDIT] although if half the textures do not load at all it might be an error with video memory being insufficient one way or another.

Re: Cannot click Relto on pedestal from Cleft

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:10 am
by boblishman
Thanks Sirius for you time in testing this for us.

I does indeed seem to be Wineskin specific, and, further to my last post (where I said that the lowering of graphic settings did NOT fix the problem on my machine), I just tried again and, together with also killing the game's audio, it has finally worked for me.

I'm going to try several combinations of audio/graphic settings to see if I can find a definite fix and, if I find one, I'll post it.

Thanks again for your help,

Bob

Re: Cannot click Relto on pedestal from Cleft

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:48 am
by boblishman
OK...more interesting news.

On MY machine (and, I guess because we all have different spec machines), which is a Late 2013 21" iMac with Intel Iris Pro Graphics, Core i5 Processor (2.7) this strange graphic/object glitch is somehow related to .... AUDIO.

You can see in this screenshot that the graphics are "missing" before you even get into the book cave! This is with the audio ENabled.

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If I crank up ALL the graphic settings to Max but DISable Audio in the Audio Tab (not just the Voice Settings, the actual "Enable Audio" tick box), then the glitch disappears and I can see all the correct textures and click on (and obtain) the Relto book.

For me it make NO difference what Graphic settings I have in the Graphic Tab, the ONLY way to correct this glitch is to DISable the Audio completely ...

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Once you have your Relto book, you can close the game, restart the game and Enable the audio.

I hope this helps anyone with a similar machine who want to get started (or create a new Avvie) in Deep Island using a Wineskin wrapper 2.6.2 and engine 1.5.0.

Re: Cannot click Relto on pedestal from Cleft

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:23 am
by Sirius
Graphic glitch due to audio being enabled ? It makes so little sense I'd never have guessed :lol:
At least I'm glad to hear it works now :) Hopefully you won't have any more problems like this one.

Re: Cannot click Relto on pedestal from Cleft

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:27 am
by Deledrius
Could this be connected to that strange iTunes workaround?

Re: Cannot click Relto on pedestal from Cleft

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:21 pm
by boblishman
No, i fixed that. That iTunes thing was due to Soundflower being installed. Once I uninstalled Soundflower it didn't need iTunes running :roll: