Guild of Writers

Acorn wrote:What happens for me is that I always get the spinning circle; occasionally I get "updating" flashing on and then off again; and even less frequently do I see a progress bar. Nothing seems to have changed for this build, in that respect. But I took the quotes from Deledrius and janaba to mean that this should have been fixed.

Was I looking for/reporting on the wrong phenomenon?

Unless I've misunderstood, the fix makes sure the spinning logo remains during the entire link. The progress bar is only visible while actual updating and loading is taking place, but you can often wait several seconds after that as you are joined to the Age by the server, etc., during which time you would previously be staring at a blank screen wondering if you are still loading.

Thanks for the update guys .

Wam and I just tried to turn Ahnonay for AcornGehn16 and again failed, as we had failed for AcornGehn15. This time, I'd cleared the Quabs before Wam joined me, and I never left the age, so it shouldn't have been an issue of who "owned" the age. Not a new issue; but we thought we should report it.

With Wam's help I completed the Eders - first pass, the singleton basket was juddering around as I looked at it, when neither of us was touching it; and for the second pass, one of the basket pair jumped out from under Wam's feet as I passed.

Invitations and chat worked fine.

Thanks again for your help, Wam!

You are more than welcome.

Chat for me was buggy - when I typed a reply I was unable to see what the letters were as I typed

For the Eder Gira First Single Basket - for me I was standing on the basket when Acorn went to cross over. It looked as if the crossover point was about 5 feet from me.

I saw Acorn walk into the water - the basket jumped from under my feet and under Acorn's. Fortunately Acorn retained the bugs (so there actually was no water contact)

Wamduskasapa wrote:
Chat for me was buggy - when I typed a reply I was unable to see what the letters were as I typed

So you had the chat fading issue, Wam. Adam has been looking into that. I've had it before, but not this time. Are your Ki chat fade settings on max?

Wamduskasapa wrote:For the Eder Gira First Single Basket - for me I was standing on the basket when Acorn went to cross over. It looked as if the crossover point was about 5 feet from me.

I saw Acorn walk into the water - the basket jumped from under my feet and under Acorn's. Fortunately Acorn retained the bugs (so there actually was no water contact)

Ah, so it was even weirder than I thought, Wam! When I looked at the single basket, when it was jiggling around, it was in the position where I crossed, ie not at the normal narrow place. You were in the water, standing in the narrow place. You were not standing on the basket at all. Still, as you say, I managed to get over it. I didn't see myself go in the water. When I returned the second time, and you were guarding the twin baskets, the single basket was still in the wider part of the stream and this second time I didn't make it over. So I pushed it back to the normal narrow place before trying again with new bugs.

AH-Haaaaa

I had the chat fade set at the 3/4's mark (I've now maxed it out)

Wamduskasapa wrote:Chat for me was buggy - when I typed a reply I was unable to see what the letters were as I typed

I managed to reproduce this once, and then it never happened again, but people still mention it

Acorn wrote:With Wam's help I completed the Eders - first pass, the singleton basket was juddering around as I looked at it, when neither of us was touching it; and for the second pass, one of the basket pair jumped out from under Wam's feet as I passed.

The next time you guys do this, let me know--I want to watch it happen. There's probably something wrong with our kickable ownership code such that your clients are fighting one another. ("It's at the origin #^&@, you!") I'm still convinced our state mechanisms are flawed in some way that I can't find. (I do have proof though! Since this update, the server error log is being filled with garbage about invalid state names that should be perfectly fine.)

Acorn wrote:Wam and I just tried to turn Ahnonay for AcornGehn16 and again failed, as we had failed for AcornGehn15. This time, I'd cleared the Quabs before Wam joined me, and I never left the age, so it shouldn't have been an issue of who "owned" the age. Not a new issue; but we thought we should report it.

Strange. Just so I know what/how to test, can you tell me exactly what procedure you're using? Ahnonay has always confused me, and Cyan's crazy python really doesn't help that...

Tsar Hoikas wrote:

Acorn wrote:With Wam's help I completed the Eders - first pass, the singleton basket was juddering around as I looked at it, when neither of us was touching it; and for the second pass, one of the basket pair jumped out from under Wam's feet as I passed.

The next time you guys do this, let me know--I want to watch it happen. There's probably something wrong with our kickable ownership code such that your clients are fighting one another. ("It's at the origin #^&@, you!") I'm still convinced our state mechanisms are flawed in some way that I can't find. (I do have proof though! Since this update, the server error log is being filled with garbage about invalid state names that should be perfectly fine.).

Happy to invite you to watch! Is Gehn17 imminent - in which case we can try with a new avvie - or do you want to try sooner than that, in which case I can reset the age for AcornGehn16. Weekends are best for me, how about you, Wam?

Tsar Hoikas wrote:

Acorn wrote:Wam and I just tried to turn Ahnonay for AcornGehn16 and again failed, as we had failed for AcornGehn15. This time, I'd cleared the Quabs before Wam joined me, and I never left the age, so it shouldn't have been an issue of who "owned" the age. Not a new issue; but we thought we should report it.

Strange. Just so I know what/how to test, can you tell me exactly what procedure you're using? Ahnonay has always confused me, and Cyan's crazy python really doesn't help that...

We do nothing peculiar

Most recent attempt:

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(After I had previously gone through all the Ahnonay versions, collected the relto pages etc on my own) I went to my water Ahnonay to clear the quabs, then Wam arrived (via a ki invitation), I swam to the maintenance area, Wam used the pedestal to leave the age - and that's when we should hear the clunk as the age changes to misty but we didn't hear anything. I stayed put in the maintenance area and Wam ran through the cathedral and then water Ahnonay again, and used the pedestal again, having checked there were no quabs - the clock was clear - again no sound of the age changing to misty. So given our experience last time, we gave up.

The previous time, Wam arrived first and couldn't see any quabs but there was one showing on the clock, so we had some fun and games trying to find it. (I seem to remember issues with invisible quabs in the past.) That's why this time I wanted to get there first and check the age was clear. But that didn't fix it.

Is it just us: has anyone else been able to turn Ahnonay recently?

My alter-ego and I just tried to turn Ahnonay as you described, and it worked well. There are problems with invisible quabs when there are multiple people in the age. But if the clock says there are no quabs, then it should work. I assume these are new Ahnonay instances? Mine are from the beginning of time(TM), so maybe that has something to do with it.

I guess this is another thing for our weekend testing

... And before I forget, I have Gehn 17 penciled in for August 10th (and no later than August 17th). We've "pretty much" decided on our major features, so those dates are flexible, depending on when the grunt work gets done . It would be nice to get the testing done before then so that I could have a shot at fixing these bugs.

Acorn wrote:
Happy to invite you to watch! Is Gehn17 imminent - in which case we can try with a new avvie - or do you want to try sooner than that, in which case I can reset the age for AcornGehn16. Weekends are best for me, how about you, Wam?

Let me know when I have the time