A few questions I need answered

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A few questions I need answered

Postby Whilyam » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:43 pm

Hi there. I'm a bit confused and would rather not waste time installing/uninstalling things and would also rather not lose work due to the plugin change. So I have a few questions.

1: I've seen the new PyPRP and a GoW PyPRP. What's the difference?

2: I have several ages with various features utilized which the new plugin apparently does differently. How do I convert them as quickly as possible?

3: I have an age which uses no features (it is simply a mesh) do I need to convert this or no?

4: When will guides be released so I can re-learn age making? :P
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Re: A few questions I need answered

Postby Grogyan » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:34 pm

1) The GOW prefix, is the official GOW version, Trylon said he fixed a bug in the previous version.

2) Switch one window to scripts, select wizards -> PyPrp -> upgrade book (keep old objects)

3) To import a mesh from another blender file, click file -> append or link
Select the blender file containing the object
open the sub directory of the file and select objects
There you will see all you objects, just select one and it will be imported to your new blender scene.

4) There are no real guides yet, i'm still waiting for them to be released as well

When you select "create new book", the book now appears in the text window, just split a window and set it to text, use the drop down menu to select book.

To set collision to an object now, go to the "buttons" window, select the object, and click the "bounds" button in the logic tab, that sets infinite friction by default.
You can set collision by most methods there, I think (i'm trialling out the cylinder option), but if in doubt set the bounds to "Static TriangleMesh".

All textures now must be UV textured.

Importing a Cyan Age, now brings up a confirmation dialog, which you must now click yes to begin importing.

See this thread for more info, its about as good a guide that we will get until the wiki has been re-written.
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Re: A few questions I need answered

Postby andylegate » Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:36 am

Whilyam,

Certain things will have to be redone in your Age, and diffently:

Ladders: They are done the "Old Way" now, there is info in one of the threads here.

Footstep areas are done differently too.

You can put sounds in now (but no one has put out how yet, I've looked at it, but not sure how to put in a sound emitter).

You have specular lighting now.

IF you import your Age, it won't all apearr in layer one, you'll have to go up and choose a scene.

They've promised us some write ups soon, but for now, look through the threads here, there's already been a lot discussed, and explained.
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Re: A few questions I need answered

Postby Robert The Rebuilder » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:52 am

I'm in the middle of writing conversion wizards that will upgrade the following from a previously existing age:
- Create missing materials and textures (and switch from ORCO to UV map-input)
- Convert all physics properties
- Convert all ladder region properties
- Convert lighting properties
- Convert camera properties
- Convert footstep region properties
- Convert clickable region properties
- Convert swim region properties

I've finished the first three items already; I plan on having all these finished by the end of the week. The intent is that you don't have to do any manual changes to your age - simply run the conversion wizards instead.
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Re: A few questions I need answered

Postby boblishman » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:56 am

...thank you Robert.....THANK YOU!!! ... you have made my day!
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Re: A few questions I need answered

Postby andylegate » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:24 am

Yay! Robert is my hero!!!!
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Re: A few questions I need answered

Postby boblishman » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:32 am

Robert, will the new Ladder Converter convert "easy" ladders too? (crosses fingers, toes and other body parts ... ;) )
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Re: A few questions I need answered

Postby Robert The Rebuilder » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:00 am

If you can send me a sample age's blend file containing an "easy" ladder that works with the stable 0.5 plugin, I can make sure the wizards will convert it as well. [ See my email in my profile.] Right now, I'm using the FuncChk age as my test age for the conversion wizards; it only has the "hard" ladder regions.

[EDIT] Whoops! Our GoW profiles do not have any way (that I can find) to allow people to email you. I'll PM you my email address instead.
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Re: A few questions I need answered

Postby andylegate » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:16 am

Robert here is my first training Age done with ver. 0.5

It has ladders, footsteps, swim areas. I can't remember the name of the way I made my ladder (made climbing area, even with bottom and top, etc, what ever way that was.) put it worked great.

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Re: A few questions I need answered

Postby Robert The Rebuilder » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:19 am

I've been dying to visit your age for a while now, Andy, and this gives me a good excuse. Thanks!

[EDIT]Actually, I'm just testing exports at the moment, not imports. Do you think you could email me the blend file and the textures? I'll PM you my address as well.
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