Nothing under Age and Page dropdowns in component utility

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Nothing under Age and Page dropdowns in component utility

Postby DreamBliss » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:09 am

I am using Max 2010 32-bit on Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

I found the old CWE 9.02 plugin for Max 2010, copied over those dills to Max's install directory. Previously I tried using the Max 2012 plugins and associated files, and Max would not load the plugins - missing .dll errors. I changed nothing but the version of the plugin essentially, didn't add any other .dlls, and the 2010 plugin loaded up fine.

I have a Plasma item in my menu and the component utility. Followed The Magician's tutorials, although as this is my 4th time or so through the process I about have it memorized. Put together a simple cube age, went to the component utility to set up the first room stuff, and there is nothing under the Age and Page dropdowns.

I will play around with this some more to try to find a solution, but if you know what's going on here could you help me out?

Thanks!
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Re: Nothing under Age and Page dropdowns in component utilit

Postby Calena » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:29 am

I went through the same thing when I was setting my build environment up. I'm not at home to verify, but if memory serves me correctly, I had the PlasmaMax2.ini file in the wrong place. Also, make certain to follow Dustin's instructions here:

Creating The Age File

Edit: In trying to jog my memory, I think maybe I had the file path in PlasmaMax2.ini pointed to the wrong file in the path hierarchy. Sorry I can't be more precise. Maybe someone else can clarify.
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Re: Nothing under Age and Page dropdowns in component utilit

Postby Christopher » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:19 am

I think the old 902 plugins had some problems regarding this, but i am not sure... However, you can take a look in this tutorial if you've done everthing correctly. You can also take a look in this tutorial on how to create a simple age. Maybe you find your problem there...

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Re: Nothing under Age and Page dropdowns in component utilit

Postby DreamBliss » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:57 pm

IT WORKS!!!

OK, here is my age building report...

First attempt, made a test age in Max 8. Tried to get a client running to test my age in MOULa. Failed. Could not get a client working (and yes I have all the downloads posted here and elsewhere, and I followed all the tutorials.) I also tried to use the Destiny Shard but had no success (as I had no proper client.) FAILED.

Second attempt, made another age, went the Drizzle/Uru CC route, and this time it worked! Linked into my age, and fell through the floor (had the terrain box all around the room box.) PARTIAL SUCCESS.

Moved to a new PC, new OS, tried to run Max 8 again to fix my age, Max 8 crashes on start (will not work on Windows 7). EPIC FAIL.

Upgraded to Max 2010, installed the CWE 912 plugins, missing .dll errors. Installed the CWE 902 Max 2010 plugins, no more missing .dll errors. Built my 3rd or 4th age (lost track), a simple empty box with the terrain box underneath it. With the help of this forum, figured out I forgot to make a .age file with the text inside as instructed by Dustin. Don't think The Magician mentioned this - was following his tutorials. Made the file, loaded up my age, stuff was there in the dropdown, set everything up, Drizzled it, loaded up Uru CC, linked to my age, everything works. EPIC SUCCESS!

On top of that I know a few tricks in Max The Magician may not have known about. I'm very excited right now, look for a video tutorial from me very soon. I will cover the whole process for Windows 7/Max 2010 users, the Drizzle/Uru CC method, everything I had to go through. I will build on that from there, maybe develop a complex age over time. Add the MOULa/Client method if I ever figure it out.

Thank you for all your help! I am really looking forward to seeing what I can do for Uru now!

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Re: Nothing under Age and Page dropdowns in component utilit

Postby Calena » Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:05 pm

And a new age writer is born! Congratulations and welcome :) .

In your excitement, don't forget the cautions Deledrius shared with us about collision meshes. We could really use a wiki page about this, as it's very important that we get it right. But in the meantime, enjoy. There's just something wonderful about running around in an age you built yourself that can't be beat :D .
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Re: Nothing under Age and Page dropdowns in component utilit

Postby DreamBliss » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:07 am

Well I ran into, or rather didn't run into, collision problems.

I can't figure it out. I an make a terrain "floor" but I still walk through the walls of my age :( I didn't want to post because I wanted to figure this out for myself. I thought that someone, anyone, would have had the same issue and posted something. Or perhaps someone would have shared their age .max file so it could be studied. Well after searching for an hour or so I appear to be wrong on both counts.

Can someone explain how to make walls and floors solid in 3DS Max (NOT BLENDER!)

ARRRGGG!

On a side note I did figure out how to use a panic link region, so at least I don't fall for a few million years... Oh and I have started my tutorial series.
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Re: Nothing under Age and Page dropdowns in component utilit

Postby Christopher » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:44 am

this sounds like a problem with your collision type. I think you used "box" or "hull". A Box collision uses the bounding box of an object as collision and a Hull collison uses the outer hull of the object. So if you have walls, which aren't seperated into single objects of have to use either "exact" or make proxy collisions. If you have onle a small age or your object doesn't have a lot of polygons, you can use exact collision. Otherwise you should make proxys, so you don't cause lag...

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Re: Nothing under Age and Page dropdowns in component utilit

Postby Deledrius » Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:40 am

When you link into your Age, go into debug flymode (to keep from falling) and enter the Graphics.Show.Physicals command into the debug console. This will allow you to see how the plugin exported your collisions and help you to determine what you did wrong. If you made it the wrong type, or have the normals facing the wrong way, it will become immediately obvious.
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Re: Nothing under Age and Page dropdowns in component utilit

Postby Christian Walther » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:25 am

That will only work in CWE (MOUL) though, not in Uru:CC. (To be exact, the debug console is only available in an internal client, and we only have an external client for CC.)
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Re: Nothing under Age and Page dropdowns in component utilit

Postby Karkadann » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:39 am

I can whip up a simple age with a few walls, floors and some kickables later on tonight if your still having problems.

Im not sure if this is the issue but the shapes in Max are usually one sided, if you link inside of a box with a terrain component you will fall threw unless you flip normals in edit mesh, try linking to the top of the box
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