A Plea For Hosting

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Re: A Plea For Hosting

Postby Trylon » Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:11 pm

Ok, I'm sensing major confusion here.

ULM does not require FTP for downloading. It requires FTP for uploading.
In fact, ULM was designed primarily for HTTP downloading and FTP uploading.
The ftp downloading was a feature that was added later on - (which probably explains why it's so crappy....)

This is because it is common practice for webhosts to provide FTP access to upload files that can be downloaded with HTTP again later on.

Now, the maintainers download site would probably work if they provided ftp upload access to a folder, which has http download access. (complex yeah, I know)

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Re: A Plea For Hosting

Postby Chacal » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:16 pm

I'm not sure you want http upload, unless you can limit access. Otherwise anyone can upload anything.
I think your current scheme works well: we upload our Age somewhere, then enter that link as a mirror. It's up to us to find some space, and redundancy and security are taken care of.

What needs to be fixed is the FTP download, because not all servers support http. It is essential to be able to use a username and password for the FTP download.
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Re: A Plea For Hosting

Postby belford » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:38 pm

My experience running a server is that if anonymous upload is open, it'll be abused, whether FTP or HTTP. It should be safe to provide password-protected upload for either mode.

"not all servers support http"? I'm missing something here. What's the problem with having people download stuff via HTTP from the maintainer's site?
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Re: A Plea For Hosting

Postby Chacal » Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:12 am

You don't download the Age files from the ULM site, you download them from a mirror. If the mirror happens to run an http service, good. If not then you need FTP or something else.
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Re: A Plea For Hosting

Postby belford » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:50 pm

Can we just choose mirrors that support HTTP?

It's not like it's a rare service.
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Re: A Plea For Hosting

Postby Chacal » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:05 am

What's rare is people willing to provide hundreds of Megs of server space and bandwidth for free.
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Re: A Plea For Hosting

Postby Trylon » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:48 am

Chacal wrote:What's rare is people willing to provide hundreds of Megs of server space and bandwidth for free.

Very true - unfortunately...
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Re: A Plea For Hosting

Postby Nynaveve » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:32 pm

Well, since it appears that Andy has gotten the ULM to cooperate with the GoMa website, I don't think we'd have any problems providing hosting space on our server. We've got tons of it, and tons of transfer bandwidth (1200GB/mo).

I'll open up the offer to anyone who needs it that the GoMa can provide free hosting space for Ages. :) Just shoot me a PM here or on the GoMa forum, and I'll send you the info you'll need.
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