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New version coming soon?

Postby ametist » Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:58 am

Hello Robert! I see on forum here that there's been a bunch of new 'shell-sign-ups' since summer :) and I'm a bit curious - so is there a new version coming soon? ;)
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Re: New version coming soon?

Postby Robert The Rebuilder » Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:46 am

Hello, Ametist!

There have been some new sign-ups, but no new shells since the July RAD contest.

If anyone out there has a shell ready for the public - or even for the Guild of Maintainers to review - just send me a PM, and I'll make a newer version.
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Re: New version coming soon?

Postby Christian Walther » Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:10 pm

On a similar topic, what's your stance on releasing WIP shells? Is it a lot of work for you to prepare a release, so you'd prefer to get only (more or less) finished shells, or is it a quick thing that would allow frequent releases of under-construction shells (provided they're explorable and stable in a technical sense, i.e. no crashers, no missing floor collision etc.)?

I sometimes think it's a bit of a shame that there is such a discrepance between the number of reserved shells and the number of shells actually populated in the game. Since such projects invariably tend to get left behind not-quite-abandoned-but-still-eternally-unfinished (well at least my projects do), encouraging WIP releases could help with that, showing us some shells, even if unfinished, that would otherwise never have been seen by the public. And seeing gradual progress in active shells might be interesting too.

(Of course, my own shell isn't even close to a WIP release... :oops:)
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Re: New version coming soon?

Postby Chacal » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:19 pm

Since each shell uses its own PRP, wouldn't it be easier to release just the prp files and updated .age and .fni files?
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Re: New version coming soon?

Postby Nadnerb » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:32 pm

the way Pahts is designed (one shell per page), the process of merging a changed shell in is very simple. Simply take the updated shell prp, replace it, and resum the age. The only question then is how much work it takes to test and upload the updated age.
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Re: New version coming soon?

Postby Paradox » Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:41 pm

Nadnerb wrote:the way Pahts is designed (one shell per page), the process of merging a changed shell in is very simple. Simply take the updated shell prp, replace it, and resum the age. The only question then is how much work it takes to test and upload the updated age.


Also there's the issue of Python scripts, which have caused problems for the RAD contest in the past.
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Re: New version coming soon?

Postby Dot » Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:39 am

Is this something GoMa could help with? Perhaps by setting up a dedicated team to support continuous pre-testing and tweaking of shells?
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Re: New version coming soon?

Postby Grogyan » Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:36 pm

Well I can say that I am having to learn a lot about lighting before I can even think of lightmapping my shell.
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Re: New version coming soon?

Postby Robert The Rebuilder » Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:29 am

Dot wrote:Is this something GoMa could help with? Perhaps by setting up a dedicated team to support continuous pre-testing and tweaking of shells?


I think that's a great idea, Dot! The process could be something like the following:

  • A Writer posts on the GoMa Ahra Pahts forums that they have a WIP shell to test.
  • A Maintainer obtains the shell files from the Writer and incorporates it into the latest available Pahts release
  • The Maintainer posts a link to the modified Pahts release (after testing it on their machine first), announcing its availability for other Maintainers to inspect
  • Much inspection and feedback ensues
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Re: New version coming soon?

Postby ametist » Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:12 am

Thanks, Robert! We have started the discussion over at GoMa, and already have people interested of this project :)

see http://www.guildofmaintainers.org/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1168 - please come over an join, everybody with an interest in this!
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