Offline KI 3.0

[Karkadann]

You guys have any plans on adding the marker missions from the MOUL?

[GregW11]

You can set your own missions, so I think importing shouldn't be that hard...

On the topic of the fissure in Relto, I think it'd be cool if you could set it to be any of the four stages.

[Karkadann]

You can set your own missions, so I think importing shouldn't be that hard...

Well thats no fun I already know where my markers are

[Rainforce]

You can set your own missions, so I think importing shouldn't be that hard...

Well thats no fun I already know where my markers are

Well, just read some other threads, head-desking is your friend
It's not that this forum exists without reason

on-topic: nice idea for the animation of the cleft, but I also want the Linking stuff.
Isn't it possible to make a (script-)command to set all bahro poles to 7/8?
would make it a lot easier.
(btw, with all the other commands for the clothes and Yeesha pages I really wonder why this is not already implemented yet)

[Darien]

Something I've been wanting to be able to do with the Offline Ki is to turn off linking books in the city and neighborhood that link to another location in the cavern. I just figured out how to create a MOUL Kirel book for my Relto bookshelf and was able to edit the city.sdl file to turn off the pedestal that has the MOUL Kirel book in the city. (Sorry, but that's been bugging me for a while now ) Being able to turn on the library linking books and banners with the Offline Ki is great and fixing the links is even better except for the fact that the last book links to the Er'cana city silo. Could there be a way to either turn this book off or have it link to Er'cana instead? Then lastly there's the linking book to the great zero observation room. I'd like to be able to turn this book off if I could. Even better (If I could have my way ) replace it with a link to Gahreesen and replace the GZ stained glass with the Gahreesen stained glass. Since you need TPotS or CC to install the Offline Ki, you already have a Bahro stone to the GZ observation room in To D'ni's Kirel so there's no need for this linking rule violating abomination.

You can disregard this request if you could show me how to edit the .age and .sdl files to remove the GZ Observation and Er'cana City Silo books. Of course, I'll keep poking around until I figure out how.

EDIT: I was able to turn off the Er'cana City Silo book, but the GZ book is killing me. I was able to turn on the Teledahn link in the neighborhood.sdl. Although this changed the link from the GZ to Teledahn, the linking image on the pedestal shows Teledahn and the GZ overlapping.

[diafero]

You guys have any plans on adding the marker missions from the MOUL?

Are you speaking about the UU marker missions, the 14 missions spread all over the city, hood and so on? I don't have any plans like that, since I never enjoyed them which makes it hard for me to get motivated to work on them

on-topic: nice idea for the animation of the cleft, but I also want the Linking stuff.
Isn't it possible to make a (script-)command to set all bahro poles to 7/8?
would make it a lot easier.
(btw, with all the other commands for the clothes and Yeesha pages I really wonder why this is not already implemented yet)

I actually had such a command once, but it could break things in a really weird way - the python code assumes that it alone controls the state of these variables, as they are tied together with other states and your overall game progress. Messing with them is a bad idea. You already have the base command to do this, and if that sounds complicated and weird, that's exactly what it is . You can even put these four commands into a textfile and use the /loadscript command to run them.

Something I've been wanting to be able to do with the Offline Ki is to turn off linking books in the city and neighborhood that link to another location in the cavern. I just figured out how to create a MOUL Kirel book for my Relto bookshelf and was able to edit the city.sdl file to turn off the pedestal that has the MOUL Kirel book in the city. (Sorry, but that's been bugging me for a while now ) Being able to turn on the library linking books and banners with the Offline Ki is great and fixing the links is even better except for the fact that the last book links to the Er'cana city silo. Could there be a way to either turn this book off or have it link to Er'cana instead? Then lastly there's the linking book to the great zero observation room. I'd like to be able to turn this book off if I could. Even better (If I could have my way ) replace it with a link to Gahreesen and replace the GZ stained glass with the Gahreesen stained glass. Since you need TPotS or CC to install the Offline Ki, you already have a Bahro stone to the GZ observation room in To D'ni's Kirel so there's no need for this linking rule violating abomination.

You can disregard this request if you could show me how to edit the .age and .sdl files to remove the GZ Observation and Er'cana City Silo books. Of course, I'll keep poking around until I figure out how.

EDIT: I was able to turn off the Er'cana City Silo book, but the GZ book is killing me. I was able to turn on the Teledahn link in the neighborhood.sdl. Although this changed the link from the GZ to Teledahn, the linking image on the pedestal shows Teledahn and the GZ overlapping.

First of all, there is absolutely no need to edit the SDL file, and I strongly discourage you to do so. Changes might be overwritten by the next Offline KI anyway, and if you are introducing new STATEDESC blocks and increasing the version number, your game will break as soon as I have to add a new SDL variable to the city. Using the /getsdl and /setsdl commands is not only much more convenient and is not reset by KI upgrades, it is also exactly the way SDL is supposed to be used.
Regarding the GZ book, that one was created by GPNMilano. Agenotfound already introduced SDL vairables for prp files she created, so if you beg him, he might introduce an SDL variable for the GZ book

[Darien]

First of all, there is absolutely no need to edit the SDL file, and I strongly discourage you to do so. Changes might be overwritten by the next Offline KI anyway, and if you are introducing new STATEDESC blocks and increasing the version number, your game will break as soon as I have to add a new SDL variable to the city.

Tell me about it. This happens to me with every new Offline Ki. How I get around this is to keep a finished saved game from an unaltered CC installation and drop it into the sav folder and I make my changes to your current STATEDESC. I've always gone into the .sdl and .age files to tweak the cavern more to my liking with every new release. Since the Offline Ki has been getting better and better, I've had to do less and less tweaking of the game files over time.

Using the /getsdl and /setsdl commands is not only much more convenient and is not reset by KI upgrades, it is also exactly the way SDL is supposed to be used.

Wow. I really should read the documentation for this thing. However, I turned off the Er'cana City Silo book by changing the .age file. Is this something that can be changed with the Offline Ki?

Regarding the GZ book, that one was created by GPNMilano. Agenotfound already introduced SDL vairables for prp files she created, so if you beg him, he might introduce an SDL variable for the GZ book

I'd rather try to convince GPNMilano to replace the GZ with Gahreesen.

Thanks, diafero!

[diafero]

Tell me about it. This happens to me with every new Offline Ki. How I get around this is to keep a finished saved game from an unaltered CC installation and drop it into the sav folder and I make my changes to your current STATEDESC. I've always gone into the .sdl and .age files to tweak the cavern more to my liking with every new release. Since the Offline Ki has been getting better and better, I've had to do less and less tweaking of the game files over time.

ok, that's indeed... inconvenient . Which modifications are left besides the one you mentioned here?

Using the /getsdl and /setsdl commands is not only much more convenient and is not reset by KI upgrades, it is also exactly the way SDL is supposed to be used.

Wow. I really should read the documentation for this thing. However, I turned off the Er'cana City Silo book by changing the .age file. Is this something that can be changed with the Offline Ki?

Removing only the Er'cana book indeed can't be done via SDL, I would have to introduce one SDL per book, kind of overkill. Editing the age file or removing city_District_LibraryErcanaVis.prp will achieve what you want, but both will be reverted after each release.

I'd rather try to convince GPNMilano to replace the GZ with Gahreesen.

Which however will mean that in order to even reach the GZ, people will have to play through Teledahn... something which I never liked. On the other hand, I never understood the purpose of the Gahreesen book in there, it always felt out of place for me as you already have Gahreesen on your Relto. So I would vote against replacing it.

[Darien]

Which modifications are left besides the one you mentioned here?

With the current Offline Ki I make these changes to the .sdl and .age. I turn on the menorah but I leave the candles unlit. I turn off the Teledahn pedestal in the courtyard (since it has the MOUL Kirel linking book.) I turn off the Releeshan book (but I leave the Todelmer book on.) I turn off the Er'cana City Silo in the Library (but I leave all other banners and books on.) And I turn on the Teledahn pedestal in front of the Library.

Which however will mean that in order to even reach the GZ, people will have to play through Teledahn... something which I never liked.

That's what /link Neighborhood02 and flymode are for.

On the other hand, I never understood the purpose of the Gahreesen book in there, it always felt out of place for me as you already have Gahreesen on your Relto. So I would vote against replacing it.

In MOUL you could go to the Neighborhood and City before you went to the Cleft and you didn't get the Gahreesen book in your Relto until you finished the Cleft. (But we all know that this doesn't make any sense either! ) I only suggested that Gahreesen replace GZ to be able to use the space for both a book and a piece of stained glass.

Are you speaking about the UU marker missions, the 14 missions spread all over the city, hood and so on? I don't have any plans like that, since I never enjoyed them which makes it hard for me to get motivated to work on them

At least I'm in total agreement with you here!

[Atrion]

Its been mentioned before that Bahro avatars are currently not possible but I was wondering something. I was not around when MOUL was live but did Cyan use Bahro in some of there stories? if so were those Avatars? Also were there Bahro avatars in MYST V or where those just animations when they are seen?