New Tool Announcement: AgeCreator 0.0.0 pre-pre-pre-alpha

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Re: New Tool Announcement: AgeCreator 0.0.0 pre-pre-pre-alpha

Postby diafero » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:28 am

Wait, Qt 4.6 *finally* has support for freedesktop.org-compliant icon loading? That was really the only major annoyance I had with Qt, so I'm glad they finally took care of that :D.
Yes, it does :) (I thought that's where you took this code from...)

However, until 4.6 is more standard on released desktops, I'll probably have to stick with qtIconLoader.
The next round of major distribution upgrades should bring Qt 4.6 to many people's system (speaking for Linux - Windows and Mac users have to manually install Qt anyway), so I'd say in 3 to 5 months Qt 4.6 should be spread fairly well.

Qt 4.5 compatibility now in trunk. Still no icons in Qt 4.5, but I'll deal with that another day.
Thanks, I can confirm that :) . I attached a patch adding tooltips to the three buttons that are labelled with "..." only. At least, I think the third button is "Remove Object", it doesn't seem to do anything ;-) . Speaking of which, is there any way to remove a layer?
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Re: New Tool Announcement: AgeCreator 0.0.0 pre-pre-pre-alpha

Postby Branan » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:34 am

I'll apply it as soon as the wife wakes up and turns on my computer so I can SSH in.

EDIT: Almost missed your question there. Remove object doesn't do anything yes, and there's currently no remove layer button, I'm not sure if I want that to have its own button or if I want the single remove button to work on objects and layers
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Re: New Tool Announcement: AgeCreator 0.0.0 pre-pre-pre-alpha

Postby diafero » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:46 am

I'll apply it as soon as the wife wakes up and turns on my computer so I can SSH in.
Now that's an interesting workflow... :lol:
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Re: New Tool Announcement: AgeCreator 0.0.0 pre-pre-pre-alpha

Postby diafero » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:28 pm

Ok, after playing with the GUI and browsing the source a bit, I think I now got the idea of what this is supposed to be. I'm excited how you plan to implement more complex inter-object interaction, animations and so on. AgeCreator looks like a great tool to understand how an existing age works since it's on a higher level than PrpShop, but unlike the PyPRP importer, it actually imports the full information. Using the scene objects as base and starting point for everything also feels "just right" (TM). Great idea, I'll definitely follow the source repository :)

One thing I wondered though: Why did you introduce the new term "layer" which, as far as I understood it, is exactly the same as a page?
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Re: New Tool Announcement: AgeCreator 0.0.0 pre-pre-pre-alpha

Postby Branan » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:39 pm

I used the term layer because it's more familiar to 3D artists who haven't done Uru editing yet. The documentation would end up saying "A page is a lot like a layer in modelling programs" anyway, so it seemed silly to leave the chance for confusion there. There's also a subtle distinction between a layer and a page in the code - a layer is a page that has a plSceneNode. This allows various internal pages (like the textures page) that aren't important to the artist and don't have to be exposed through the GUI to be handled nicely in code. That difference doesn't really matter on the terminology front, though.
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Re: New Tool Announcement: AgeCreator 0.0.0 pre-pre-pre-alpha

Postby diafero » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:13 am

I see.

Nice to see a dedicated forum for this btw.
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Re: New Tool Announcement: AgeCreator 0.0.0 pre-pre-pre-alpha

Postby Branan » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:51 pm

QtIconLoader is now integrated for Qt 4.5 icons. Now I get to work on features again!
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Re: New Tool Announcement: AgeCreator 0.0.0 pre-pre-pre-alpha

Postby I.Brattin » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:41 pm

You forgot to include the mingwm10.dll.
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Re: New Tool Announcement: AgeCreator 0.0.0 pre-pre-pre-alpha

Postby Branan » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:51 pm

I.Brattin wrote:You forgot to include the mingwm10.dll.


No idea how I managed that, I've been just updating the AgeCreator.exe in my archive and renaming it, not creating a new one... but somehow I managed to delete mingwm10.dll, you're right. New release posted with the dll included :oops:
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Re: New Tool Announcement: AgeCreator 0.0.0 pre-pre-pre-alpha

Postby diafero » Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:25 am

Thanks, icons confirmed to work :)
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