Lost with Python

[Valdez]

Well my clickable and my bound are both set as actors. Is there anything else? Like logic properties in the logic panel?

[andylegate]

Make sure that you have bounds set for your clickable object too. I'd make your click region a bit bigger, it looks like it just barely can contain the avie.

Check for mispellings in your ALCscript.

You have a sound emitter, that's good. I would add some flags to it in your script, like making it a 3D sound.

Make sure that if you change after you change the size and position of both the click region and the object that is the clickable, you give them a new center, and you use Cntl-A. I've had clickables not work because of that.

When asking us for help, make sure you tell us the following:

Is your cursor turning "hot" when you move your mouse over the object?

[Valdez]

I made the bound larger, reset the centerpoints and double checked my AlcScript and it still doesn't work. What I mean by not clickable is there is no hotspot on the button. There is bounds set to the clickable object and it is an actor, same for the clickable region. I made my sound emitter a 3D one but I can't hear it until the button works.

[D'Lanor]

It is not your fault. I checked the quickscript and it is set up in a way that makes the pythonfile required. We seem to have forgotten that this quickscript was originally made for calling Python files.

There is another way to make this work though. You have to write out the full logic script like this:

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Button_Decals: 
    physical: 
        pinned: true
    logic: 
        modifiers: 
          - tag: AutoClick
            cursor: poised
            flags: 
              - localelement
            activators: 
              - type: objectinvolume
                remote: Decal_Rgn_click
                triggers: 
                  - any
            conditions: 
              - type: activator
                activators: 
                  - type: picking
              - type: objectinbox
                satisfied: true
              - type: facing
                satisfied: true
                directional: true
            actions: 
              - type: responder
                ref: $SoundResp
        actions: 
          - type: responder
            tag: SoundResp
            responder: 
              states: 
                - cmds: 
                    - type: soundmsg
                      params: 
                          receivers: 
                            - 0011:sound_emit_decals
                          cmds: 
                            - play
                            - setvolume
                          volume: 1
                      waiton: -1
                  nextstate: 0
                  waittocmd: 0
              curstate: 0
              flags: 
                - detecttrigger

[andylegate]

Ah! This explains why my stuff is working okay. I had remembered that you (D'Lanor) had simplified this and told me about it, but by the time I was ready to do other clickables, I couldn't find it right away, so I just copied and pasted that long logic version we first came up with!!!....I assumed that the new one was a done deal.

[D'Lanor]

The sound I added to the quickscript is a done deal, but the whole thing only works if there is a pythonfile. If no pythonfile is given it just quits. I did not change anything in the original way this was set up.

[Valdez]

Thanks a bunch D'Lanor! My buttons work perfectly! My training age is back on track! WOOT!

[Nadnerb]

This has come up every time someone has tried to use the simpleclick quickscript, and almost every time it has resulted in them setting up the full logic mod manually. Is this not a good indicator that the quickscript should be set up to not require a python file? (The real question: is anyone actually using the quickscript in it's current form that would object to it's being changed?)

[boblishman]

There is another way to make this work though. You have to write out the full logic script like this:

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Button_Decals: 
    physical: 
        pinned: true
    logic: 
        modifiers: 
          - tag: AutoClick
            cursor: poised
            flags: 
              - localelement
            activators: 
              - type: objectinvolume
                remote: Decal_Rgn_click
                triggers: 
                  - any
            conditions: 
              - type: activator
                activators: 
                  - type: picking
              - type: objectinbox
                satisfied: true
              - type: facing
                satisfied: true
                directional: true
            actions: 
              - type: responder
                ref: $SoundResp
        actions: 
          - type: responder
            tag: SoundResp
            responder: 
              states: 
                - cmds: 
                    - type: soundmsg
                      params: 
                          receivers: 
                            - 0011:sound_emit_decals
                          cmds: 
                            - play
                            - setvolume
                          volume: 1
                      waiton: -1
                  nextstate: 0
                  waittocmd: 0
              curstate: 0
              flags: 
                - detecttrigger

A quick question D'Lanor ... is there a way to add an animation to this Alcscript - so that it doesn't need a python file ... ?
(My idea is to have a button to click, the avatar presses it, it makes a sound like it's not working (just a click noise) ... but doesn't actually make anything move
(i.e. - it's "broken" - or has no "power" - at the moment )

[D'Lanor]

This has come up every time someone has tried to use the simpleclick quickscript, and almost every time it has resulted in them setting up the full logic mod manually. Is this not a good indicator that the quickscript should be set up to not require a python file? (The real question: is anyone actually using the quickscript in it's current form that would object to it's being changed?)

Yes, I am using the quickscript in its current form. Not that I personally would mind writing out the full logic script but if this is going to change it should remain compatible with people's current alcscripts. Too many things have already been broken in the past by updates.

It would be good to make all parameters optional and independent.

Also the oneshotmod should be set up so that you can choose to either feed it through Python or run it directly (although I would still recommend the Python method for multiplayer compatibility).

A quick question D'Lanor ... is there a way to add an animation to this Alcscript - so that it doesn't need a python file ... ?

Yes. I will show you when I get home from work if someone does not beat me to it.

Edit: Here you go.

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<clickable>: 
    logic: 
        modifiers: 
          - tag: AutoClick
            cursor: poised
            flags: 
              - localelement
            activators: 
              - type: objectinvolume
                remote: <region>
                triggers: 
                  - any
            conditions: 
              - type: activator
                activators: 
                  - type: picking
              - type: objectinbox
                satisfied: true
              - type: facing
                satisfied: true
                directional: true
            actions: 
              - type: responder
                ref: $SoundResp
              - type: oneshot
                ref: $ClickAnim
        actions: 
          - type: oneshot
            tag: ClickAnim
            oneshot:
                animation: <animation name>
                seektime: <time in seconds>
                remote: <animation target>
          - type: responder
            tag: SoundResp
            responder: 
              states: 
                - cmds: 
                    - type: soundmsg
                      params: 
                          receivers: 
                            - 0011:<soundemitter>
                          cmds: 
                            - play
                            - setvolume
                          volume: <sound volume>
                      waiton: -1
                  nextstate: 0
                  waittocmd: 0
              curstate: 0
              flags: 
                - detecttrigger