Fan Age expedition: Cathedral [spoilers]

[dendwaler]

To Ehren

4. This one is pretty small, but it seems like the fountain water should run a little faster to look natural.

This is what i made later in unity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFeHNMSwGoQ

[dendwaler]

How to solve the gong puzzle by what is given in the age

When you are able to enter the north wing and can start with the gong puzzle, then you have already completed the task of finding the journey cloth's.
you will need the knowledge you earned by that.

However there is some basic knowledge required.
You have to now that in music you have 12 tones in an octave 7 whole notes and 5 half tones.
with the journey you have seen the 7 whole notes you heared them and you saw how to write this in a score.
Lets resume these 7 notes in a picture. c,d,e,f,g,a,b

these are written as in the next picture.

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[url=https://ibb.co/KXBZBh0][img]https://i.ibb.co/nb424mg/Score-whole-notes.jpg[/img][/url]

In the area are two banners they give you the music score of the tune from which the last 4 tones have to be played on the gong.
The first 4 tones are in red because you already have played them on the piano in the west wing.
the last 4 tones are the final tones for the gongs.
Some of the explorers will recognize the complete song as the hour tones of the "Big Ben"
Its a very common melody played by nearly every electronic doorbell "chime" in the entire world.

on the banners you see some notes that differs from the notes which score we already have found .
There is a logic in the way the score is build up.

[url=https://ibb.co/sjy6kPY][img]https://i.ibb.co/Jn5y0dJ/Score-totaal.jpg[/img][/url]

Now we have al the notes , we can read them and search the corresponding notes on the signs on the gongs.
and finally play them.

If you want the final spoiler here is a map of the area with gongs and the solution order
MAJOR SPOILER!!!!!


[img]https://i.ibb.co/fFsmbQ2/Layout2.jpg[/img]

[dendwaler]

now i look to it again, i have to admit that there might be some inconsistency between notes a and b.
I have to overthink this. My excuses this happened , it might have confused visitors .

[Deledrius]

Hey, your pictures look a lot like the notes I took when I played through!

[Korovev]

May I suggest you start all over again, AFTER an announcement at next month's All Guilds Meeting?

And perhaps you could try to schedule so that DenDwaler could be part of the tour, too?

I will of course announce it at the next AGM. The Touring Club thing is something I meant to try for a while, and a recent issue (apparently) with Cathedral gave the final push These first few expeditions will help me calibrate them better before a formal announcement.

Maybe in the future it will become available on Gehn much improved , with the good sound and with better lightning, different scripting , real multiplayer etc.
But that is so much work , it will take its time.

No worry, these visits are mainly a way to celebrate the over 100 Ages that are hosted on DI. The feedback is a bonus in case the authors decide to do some more work on their Ages

Lots of misunderstanding, people leave the age halve finished, newcommers cannot understand what happened and sometimes never happens for them .

Yeah, my fault, I fogot to use /!resetage before starting. Next time let’s not split the party, people

[Théodore]

For those of you that have no musical ears at all. And I mean by that, no musical ears!

Unless someone plays Do Ré Mi Fa Sol La Si Do, I cannot tell whether you played Mi Do La or Si Ré Sol.

There's the brute force technique. You just need pure logic and it is easy.

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You have 12 gongs. You have 7 journey cloths with notes. Of which 2 are notes on each the green and red banners. 5 notes are not relevant. You can exclude them right away.
If you look carefully at the banners, you will see d'ni numerals beside each note, 3 have the d'ni numeral #2, 1 has the d'ni numeral #3. You already know the note with the d'ni numeral #3, it is 1 of your journey cloths.
Looking around at the 12 gongs, you have 2 gongs with the d'ni numeral #3. You can exclude an additional note since that particular note is not part of the 5 notes excluded amongst your journey cloths.
So, let's recap:
You need 4 gongs, you already have the 1st one and the last one. You just need to find the 2nd and the 3rd ones in the sequence (green banner).
Out of 12 notes, 2 are known (from the journey cloths), 5 are known but irrelevant (from the journey cloths), 1 is known but irrelevant (2nd note with d'ni numeral #3): 12 - 2 - 5 - 1 = 4.

You are facing a "big" issue of finding a combination sequence of 2 between 4 unknown notes. Let's do the maths! 4 times 3 = 12.

The brute force technique is easy: you just have to go through at most 12 combinations. The way I numbered them, I had to go through 11 combinations. :roll: Well, it took maybe 15 minutes all in all.

Maybe it is not the intended way but hey... I'm musical-impaired!

[dendwaler]

@ Theodore,

yes, thats another way to solve it, and not to difficult.
By the way the numbers besides the dni notes are referring to the octave in which the note is played.
And you are right there is only 1 note in octave 3.
thanks for your comment, appreciated.!

[Théodore]

Hi,

I should have at least tell you that I really appreciate your age! I played it a long time ago but after @Philipgr on another post wrote recently that he had some issues solving the musical puzzle; I linked back in Cathedral and reworked my walkthrough to make it more easy to follow. I'm not really good at critique. I can just imagine all the hard work that goes in creating/building an age. I'm an explorer that's all.

The elements most likely to make an age relevant for most explorers:
1) good storyline;
2) puzzles inside the age (not too difficult, I won't name ages, but some puzzles are way too hard to even be enjoyable, it's a game not a torture!);
3) good lighting;
4) great sounds / musical scores;
5) the vastness of the age;
6) the diversity of areas one can visit;
7) the overall realism, avatars are that much high, if I get inside a room and everything looks like it had been built by giants for giants... well...;
8) the use of colours / textures;
9) panic link proof;
10) replayability.

Some might add sticking to the cannon, but I'm not really fan of that. As long as the storyline is not too far stretch, I'm good with that.
I know that for textures or assets early age builders were really constraint, Cyan back in 2007 was not Cyan in 2020 were all their assets can now be used for age building. Most builders back then had to work with new textures, different assets not made for URU. I think also the tools for making an age changed a lot. I'm seeing improvement along the way.

You are the one behind Turtle Isle too. That's one of my ten favorite ages!

[Chacal]

Dendwaler I feel the pain, I made two mods for CS2015, thousands of people downloaded it but I received not a single comment, and not enough ratings to display them.

I'm not sure what it means for my mod, but rest assured everyone who tried your Cathedral found it amazing. I started exploring it with my 8-year-old son, but we stopped at the music puzzle (we're both ADHD) and forgot to come back.

[dendwaler]

hi Chacal! thats a long time ago.
thx for the cheer up!
Then go back , read the spoilers and finish the age, you realy have to see the better parts.
Years ago , you posted some images, i used one of them and builded nearly a complete age around it.
I never finished it, maybe i will do it now agebuilding is starting to tickle me again.
You will certainly recognize it.

Theodore thx for your opinion, i can agree with almost everything you sommed up.
the difficult part is to maintain that vision during building.
After the cathedral i was glad that it was finished, and itwas difficult to restart again.