RealMYST Ages

[BahroFan]

Would be possible to port the Ages of RealMYST (once extracted from the .dni container) into URU, or are they done differently?

[Branan]

There are a huge number of differences between the version of Plasma used in RealMYST and the one used in the URU games. I don't know if a converter has ever been attempted, but it's something I certainly wouldn't want to try to do.

[BahroFan]

That's too bad. I kind of wanted to see the original Myst in URU, not just the ruined version of MYST 5. Speaking of that, would there be any leftover data in the URU version of Myst? The reason I wonder is because you can see the Rime shelf with flymode.

[Grogyan]

Topic has ben adressed lots of times, and the answer is they are just too different, though if your keen enough you could try and do it yourself.

Example being the guys making Riven a Real Time experience

[kaelisebonrai]

Actually...

Dustin (main author of Drizzle), /was/ working at one stage on converting realMYST in Drizzle.

lemme see if I can see what he got up to...

http://picasaweb.google.ca/ddb174/Moul# ... 9261413458

http://picasaweb.google.ca/ddb174/Moul# ... 1566681410

And, iirc, he said something about it having improved since those shots... I'll go look up the relevant quotes, and see how its going, next time I catch him. =)


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[Ranting Thespian]

I was also thinking about how to get the old MYST island back into URU Live while still being in cannon.

The actual Island still exists in MYST 5 (and we have MYST books on our Relto bookshelf), so what if we come up with an explanation of the Guild of Maintainers working on that age physically. You know, cutting grass, rebuilding structures, re-wiring switches, repairing paintings. I am also not talking about the MYST ages being brought back (the books are most likely destroyed, or in an even worse state than MYST), just the island. I think it should look a little different with maybe some paint or such, or a different type of wood or brick, and maybe some Guild of Maintainers symbols. We would not release any new info just that people loved the island, and wanted to repair it.

I think it could be entirely feesable and still in cannon to bring MYST back that way.

[Aloys]

IC it might be possible, but personnally I'd hate to see this happen. Myst island is something special, almost 'sacred', I don't think anybody should be allowed to touch it..

[kaelisebonrai]

I was also thinking about how to get the old MYST island back into URU Live while still being in cannon.

The actual Island still exists in MYST 5 (and we have MYST books on our Relto bookshelf), so what if we come up with an explanation of the Guild of Maintainers working on that age physically. You know, cutting grass, rebuilding structures, re-wiring switches, repairing paintings. I am also not talking about the MYST ages being brought back (the books are most likely destroyed, or in an even worse state than MYST), just the island. I think it should look a little different with maybe some paint or such, or a different type of wood or brick, and maybe some Guild of Maintainers symbols. We would not release any new info just that people loved the island, and wanted to repair it.

I think it could be entirely feesable and still in cannon to bring MYST back that way.

Well, technically, the MYST 5 Myst isn't entirely canon, either, however, the Uru Myst is, and its far less damaged. =) (and based on the realMYST Myst. =) )

So, I see no reason to drop maintainer symbols all over it. =P where Uru and Myst V contradict eachother, Uru is the one that is Canon. =)

[Ranting Thespian]

Well, technically, the MYST 5 Myst isn't entirely canon, either, however, the Uru Myst is, and its far less damaged. =) (and based on the realMYST Myst. =) )

So, I see no reason to drop maintainer symbols all over it. =P where Uru and Myst V contradict eachother, Uru is the one that is Canon. =)

The only MYST I have seen in URU is just the library. You never see the island or anything else.

[D'nial]

There is, however, a map of the island in Uru's Myst--and it's the same as the maps that appeared in other incarnations of Myst. So the layout is pretty similar, and the biggest change that could happen is a scaling-up of everything on the island, keeping proportions the same.

I had this idea a while ago that RealMyst's models could be updated and released as a new version of Myst with the latest rendering technology, bump/normal mapping, proper day/night cycles for all Ages, and other stuff like that. Ideally, this would come with not only Rime, but every single Age that Atrus mentions in passing in his library journals, and the harvest Age referenced at the end of BoA. Call it... I dunno... TrueMyst.

I'd like to see RealMyst support for Uru, because my RealMyst copies (Windows and Mac versions) are no longer usable on any computer I possess. However, my involvement with this or with a hypothetical new version of Myst would be less that of a contributor and more that of a slave-driver.