Role play

[Trylon]

I think an IC site would be a good idea. IT sounds like a bit of fun too. Sometimes I kinda miss a little IC around here.

Some sort of framework - like BAD proposed - on which to build personal IC stories would be nice too. It would probably need some re-iteration of known canon, plus some GOW-specific assumptions.

[Marcello]

I'm in! Sounds like a great plan and fun to work on. Besides the story of the GoW it would be nice to be able to support substories of individual writers. Some kinda blog maybe.

[Tweek]

If you blog, or the site has an RSS Feed, submit it to UruBlogs so it can join all the other IC sites in the community

[rivenwanderer]

I'm not well-versed in Uru Canon TM, but I think this is a good idea If nothing else, it would be good for different people's IC stories of "how this Age came to be" could have some consistency (if the authors wanted that).

Maybe one of the things an IC GoW site could syndicate different guild writer's IC blogs... I know that UruBlogs syndicates all the IC Uru ones, but it'd be nice to see all the guild and writer-specific stuff in one place.

Oh, also--for ages that people want to "discover" rather than write, maybe one IC option could be that the *descriptive* books were found, not just the linking books, and the guild would like to study the age to better understand writing.

[Trylon]

Maybe there could be room for individual writer's personal IC characters and backstories. That way everyone could contribute in a way.
(EDIT: Just saw that rivenwanderer also proposed something like that)

Oh, also--for ages that people want to "discover" rather than write, maybe one IC option could be that the *descriptive* books were found, not just the linking books, and the guild would like to study the age to better understand writing.

That is actually a pretty good analogy to how we reverse-engineered pyprp btw. IC we're in the process of reverse-engineering a Rehevkor, based on actual descriptive books we found. (In addition to research on Relto and Bahro stones)

[Jadawin12]

Speaking of IC fun. Last year I and a few others were working on reviving a project much older that's down in the Projects section under Showcase Age.

Here's part of the Coversation we had on it:

Jadawin12 wrote:
What:

What is this Ages purpose?
I think of it as a place for higher learning and sharing between the Guilds as well as a place for the GoW to share the newest Books entered into its canon
It seems to me to be somewhat of a "proof of concept". It's IC the Guild showing what they have learned to write, and how this can benefit the community. It's a sort of advertisement of the Guild, in a way.

Where:

... um dunno about this one
Taygahn, of course.

When:

When was this Age Written?
This is an important question because if this Age was written by the GoW it would be fairly new meaning that many of the things on it would not have been man made (unless it was made by the former inhabitence of the Island but I for one am against that because then we would be left with the mystery "where did they go?" ) Instead imagine that thie nautilus pattern was a fossil of a huge now extinct crustecean, the ampitheater is a nautual one. While there could be some man made things like firemarble lamps and some podiums to hold the Books for the most part the Island could be completely natural and very new.
A lot can be built very quickly, even in an amateur way. Of course, the Guild wouldn't be bringing in construction crews and hiring fancy architects, so nothing complex or expensive. An ampitheater would be easy to build (just dig away/pile up dirt and call it a day, even a wood or concrete bench arrangement shouldn't be that hard to make). Then we'd have book podiums and firemarble lamps and other such mass produced D'ni furnishings.

How:

How was this Age made?
Very carefully
And very cautiously. Nothing especially extreme would be used, I would think - not for such an important and new project.


The idea was Taygahn (I've also been fiddleing with renaming it Re'veer ) would be a Writers careful meticulous contribution to the Guild as the first new Guild Age for the Guild of Writers. Meanwhile however another Writer brings forth their own (the Everyage concept in the same forum) this Age had been made using Gehn's methods stealing lines from other descriptive Books to create an Age. Then there could be a bit of drama over which Age gets to recieve the honor of being the first Guild Age... Just some ideas sorry to hijack the thread

[BAD]

I cannot help noticing a major flaw in this idea. Most writers do not IC claim to have written their ages. The more common storyline for ages is that they are D'ni ages which the "writer" (if featured in the story at all) has discovered or restored. You are not alone in this misconception though. Cyan has in fact been making the same mistake.

I don't see this flaw you point out. I believe I made it clear that any kind of story you want to make up can be integrated. However you come into possesion of the book is inconsequential. The thing that makes this work is that we are not beholden to canon. Sure, that may limit some of us when it comes time for Cyan to accept ages onto there servers, but this idea is not for Cyan, this idea is to make the GOW more accessible and understandable to the general fan population.

Sure my *examples* are far from perfect, thus why they are examples and not categories.

[Aloys]

The GOW doesn't have an in cavern presence, because it needs none. The GOW is a heavily OOC group, unfortunately, but for it's purpose this is almost completely necessary.

The role of the GoW consist of both creating the tools/procedures needed to make Ages and producing those Ages. The first part is very much OOC, and IC it would be closer to the Guilds of Ink Markers / Book Makers anyway, rather than that of the Writers. And even the content creation part is so focused on the OOC technical side of creation that it is hard to have an IC facade. On top of this we don't know much about the actual IC creation of Books.. (both the Writing and the physical creation of the Books & Ink) which doesn't help us either..
I'm afraid if we want to have an IC presence we will have to totally abstract the actual OOC creation details.

In particular covering Ages under development from an IC perspective is problematic.
With the DRC stories it was easy for Cyan to draw a parallel between the the IC restoration and OOC creation, and that was both useful and fun. We can't really do that with explorer-written Ages because we know next to nothing about the Art... The only people who maintain the most succesful IC presence are people like Tweek who are actually restoring Ages rather than writing them. That doesn't mean that it can't be done, but it's much more difficult. (Giles over at Garternay.com has done some of that; but I haven't followed his blog enough to comment)

Covering already released Ages is definitely easier, and again an IC site would probably be a good starting point. It could catalog released explorer-written Ages; but explorer-restored Ages wouldn't really fall under the responsability of an IC GoW.

[ddb174]

The GoW doesn't do anything; the people who *visit* the GoW and *discusss* things here are the ones who do things. Some will play it up IC, and some won't.

[BAD]

Right in Reality ddb, but for those who want to say they are a part of the GOW in character, that doesn't work. This being that when RPing people will ask what the GOW does and at this point there is no answer. Sure you could try to abstract the methods being discussed here, but having many people with different interpretations would confuse things.

I'm also not saying we should come up with some all encompassing storyline for the group, but it would be better, I think, if the GOW had at least some basic Role playing information. A base with which people can build their stories from.

Perhaps we could get RAWA to help out with this? Maybe he could provide us with some hints or leads to information on how a group would RP this?