What can't we make?

[GPNMilano]

Something occurred to me as I was scanning the forums.

I know we're not allowed to touch the ages listed on the DRC site, nor pre-existing ages in any of the games. I was wondering if there was anything else that was off limits by Cyan in general. I'm probably going to be done with my temple age sometime this week, and am looking into what I want for my next age, and was curious as to my "limits".

[Tsar Hoikas]

A Library Age for all Fan-Made Ages is disallowed... Or was 2 years ago. It probably still is.

[Kierra]

No using Cyan's textures.

Not sure on the music, but I'm betting so. Stuff like sound FX is OK of course.

~Kia

[Whilyam]

Sound effects meaning the footstep sounds. I don't think it's okay to use something like the journey door opening sound in your ages

[andylegate]

Actually, it is.

IF you do it this way:

You point your soundemitter to the .ogg file that already exists on other people's Uru install, but you DON'T include the .ogg file with your Age files, as that's distributing game files.

We had this discussion a while ago. It's why we can use linking pannels to like say Teledahn, as the python file only points to the linking panel texture that's already there, but you're not distributing that texture.

I mean Cyan doesn't have the rights to any sound file that sounds like a waterfall too. But they do have the rights to the one they made.

I think it was more along the lines of: Don't copy our stuff, such as textures, meshes, story lines, etc.

[Lontahv]

Ok, here is a block of solid ranting.

::Warning may contain negative-vibes toward some parties::

</things to consider>

When I go to a fan-age I expect something new, not just pieced together Cyan stuff. Please try not to use sound FX other than the built-ins (like foot-sounds). If someone here gets in trouble, then the whole GoW will most likely be shutdown as well. Please don't do risky things in your age. Remember to make a very similar sound with your own sound editor is much better than just using some Cyan sound.

We, people of the GuildOfWriters are balancing on a crumbling cliff's edge. It's your duty as a member not to get the Guild in boiling-hot water. Be careful what you do, it could decide the fate of the whole guild and pyprp, etc.

Note: If this post came off a bit strong-smelling (like some of the more rank cheeses)... sorry. I'm not so much telling you what to do, but ranting in a way that sound like it.

</things to consider>


~Lontahv

[boblishman]

....When I go to a fan-age I expect something new, not just pieced together Cyan stuff...

You have me confused now Lontahv ... if you expect this (above) ... what is the Suit Age that you just uploaded onto the ULM for ? ... maybe I missunderstood, but you seem to be contradicting yourself ... or did I miss something in the Suit Age ? ... ( I didn't see anything, it was just darkness, then I just returned (involuntarily) immediately to Relto wearing a (Cyan) Maintainers suit ... only with no helmet )

[Robert The Rebuilder]

Cyan has already given us clearance to reference any of the URU:CC sound files (effects and music) in our ages - see the post below:

http://www.forum.guildofwriters.com/vie ... f=8&t=1494

[andylegate]

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[Chacal]

We, people of the GuildOfWriters are balancing on a crumbling cliff's edge. It's your duty as a member not to get the Guild in boiling-hot water. Be careful what you do, it could decide the fate of the whole guild and pyprp, etc.

I couldn't disagree more.

I don't understand what you mean. What crumbling edge?

Certainly Cyan is in the weakest position it has ever been in, and Turner is probably way past caring. I don't see what could get the water boiling at this point.

If anything, Cyan or Turner could take exception to someone using a texture or a sound, then send a D&D letter to that person, which said person would then choose to obey or not. The probability of such a letter to be followed by a lawsuit is exactly zero.

As for the GoW: it doesn't exist, it has no charter, no head office, no owners or officers that could be sued. The GoW doesn't make Ages, it doesn't use textures or sounds.

It gets even better: you can make a new part of the City or a library Age if you want, it is certainly not illegal in any country. The fact that Cyan (or one Cyan representative at one point in time) wishes you wouldn't means only one thing: it wishes you wouldn't. Alas, life is such that one's wishes aren't always granted. Actually, I'm not sure if Cyan's wishes are still relevant. Wishes didn't seem to help much in keeping MOUL alive. Maybe Cyan had its chance, failed and should now focus on not being too much of a hindrance.

So what exactly is the danger here? In the unlikely event that Cyan can get a MOUL server running, it could refuse an Age for inclusion in MOUL. Oooo.

I don't advocate stealing someone else's intellectual property.

But if I ever get down to Age building, the last thing on my mind will be Cyan's wishes. If I can make a good City building, you can bet I'll post it.