Animated transparent textures and stencils ...

[boblishman]

OK, I sent a whole day trying to achieve an animated transarent texure that was using a stencil ... with no luck

I set up the transparent material ... using the stencil ... and that worked fine. But as soon as I added the IPO frames to the transparent layer ... the stencil effect uopn the transparency stopped working. The texture still animates OK ... but the stencil (which I was trying to use as a "mask" over the animated texture to give it a faded edge) just stops working and I can see the whole of the animated texture ...

Now, is there something "extra" I need to do to use stencils with transparent animated textures ? ... or does Plasma not "allow" stencils on transparent animated textures ?

(btw ... I managed to create the effect I wanted by using vertext painting to fade out the edges ... but it's not really the way I wanted to do it )

[Paradox]

I think originally stencils couldn't be animated or PyPRP would ignore something... that should be fixed now, animated stencils should work fine.

[Nadnerb]

So the question this immediately brings to mind is, what version of pyprp are you using?

[boblishman]

I'm using 1.4.0 ... but I think you may be missunderstanding me. What happens is, I am not animating the stencil layer itself, it's the semi-transparent texture layer above it (the one affected by the stencil) that I wanted to animate.
I can set up all the layers and it works fine until I add the Ipo curve to the texture layer (on top of the stencil - the one that should be affected by the stencil) ... that layer then animates, but the stencil becomes TOTALLY invisible ... so I can see the whole of the mesh/texture it was supposed to "mask" ... if I go back and delete the IPO curve ... the stencil works again...

[Jojon]

Umm, doesn't the stencil affect the layer *below* itself, in effect taking the part of an alpha channel for it?

[boblishman]

yes... it does ... (I know this is confusing ... ) ... when you look that the layers list in the Blender Texture Tab - the layer the stencil affects is the one BELOW it in the list ... but the way it WORKS is that it is like a "mask" (which would be the layer ABOVE, obscuring the layer underneath it) ... sorry if my post is confusing ...

for example ... in this case ...

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... the stencil (middle layer in the list) affects the moss texture, not the pillar one


anyhow, like I said before ... the stencilling works fine ... until I add the IPO curves for the animation ... (to the semi-transparent tetxure, NOT the stencil) ... then it "breaks" the stencil ...

[Jojon]

Aaah, we just used different abstraction models. :)
I tend to think of it the airbrush painting way:

-Each layer is drawn on top of the previous, in turn.
-In our case, we have a pillar base coat.
-We lay a stencil over this - a paper with a shape cut out (really a negative of our stencil, I suppose, depending on how one see the alpha.)
-As we spray on the moss, it only covers the base paint where the hole is.
-The stencil is lifted off.

Anyway, I just did a quick test and can confirm your results; "top coat" takes over, as if the stencil wasn't there and everything got painted over -- remove the "base coat's" IPO curve and all is back to normal...

[boblishman]

phew ... glad it's not just me then ... I thought I was going crazy! (or doing something wrong) ...thanks Jojon ... so, is this a "limitation" of Plasma, the plugin ... or just a "no go" ... ?


EDIT: Just to clarify: in the above example ... WITHOUT any IPO the above example produces a pillar with "patches" of moss (produced by the stencil) ... however, add in an IPO curve to the pillar texture ... and you get a completetly moss covered object ... no pillar texture ...