DRayX Please explain MOUL Files

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Re: DRayX Please explain MOUL Files

Postby Grogyan » Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:10 am

Tsar Hoikas, now has the server at his place now, I think.

(Being sincere not mean)
Going back, and re reading the first post, I see that it is slightly worded incorrectly, and you should have put in, "can you pm me with any useful info?", because this forum, when it started actually blurred EULA slightly, only because most of the (dare I say it), hacking, had been done from Uru:Prologue/PotS, which Cyan knew about, but by no means accepted it, which was spelled out once, if I can remember the quote, "even by silence we do not condone this action nor do we accept it, for further queries email legal@cyan.com'
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Sorry, but it does bare mentioning

I'll pm you something
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Re: DRayX Please explain MOUL Files

Postby andylegate » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:58 am

Wow, I'm trying to wrap my head around this:

A registered user of this forum, is threatening to some how bring a legal suit against the GoW (private, free club) and this forum (an open, free public forum), because they felt that they were not receiving the help they were entitled to. Said "Help" being:

1) Information on how to (at this point in time) illegally obtain game files from a company who has stated, as recently as yesterday (Click Here For Chogon) that they still consider this activity illegal.

2) Information that may have been passed privatly (IE PM's) to another member, violating that member's confidentiality.

3) Because this organization has declared publicly that it will not condone illegal activity, nor be a partner in it.

Did I get that right?

Wow. I think I need to go back to bed and get up again. I obviously woke up in a strange and different world this morning, where people think they have a right to sue someone or a group because they DON'T want to break the law........ :shock:
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Re: DRayX Please explain MOUL Files

Postby GPNMilano » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:12 pm

Fezz wrote:May I say this before I go for the day.
Trylon puts forth the opinion in his edited post.

Just do a request for help, and you'll probably get some PM's
EDIT: With "Request for help" means a respectful request like Fezz made...

I just dont know how a respectful question turns into such problems from those I had a lot of respect for.


Fezz, No one has a problem with you requesting information on how to obtain MOUL ages. Those that are able to provide them, if they see your request, will PM you, as they did. However, the distribution of MOUL ages is still not allowed here on this board (because until Cyan releases this content, through open source, it is still their IP, and such their are laws regarding it) You can request it, but people won't post the torrents in the threads. Instead those who are willing to share will PM you when they see your post. By not posting them directly in a thread, it puts the legal issue of the distribution on you, and the user sharing those files with you. Not the people who host this board.

That being said, most of the controversy was caused by a misunderstanding between Bodon, and those that posted in response to him. I believe Bodon, while having a firm grasp on the English language, it is not his primary language. Hence he may have mistook someone's saying "no we can't help you on this forum" as "no go away, we won't help you at all" when quite the opposite. In this regard the help cannot, and should not be made on the forum itself, but rather through private messages.

I believe this whole thing was simply a misunderstanding between Bodon, and others, because Bodon did not understand that we weren't saying "no we can't help you at all" but instead were saying "we can't help you in public, but leave your request here and someone may PM you"

It really was IMO, a simple misunderstanding based upon people of different languages misinterpreting each other.
andylegate wrote:Wow, I'm trying to wrap my head around this:

A registered user of this forum, is threatening to some how bring a legal suit against the GoW (private, free club) and this forum (an open, free public forum), because they felt that they were not receiving the help they were entitled to. Said "Help" being:

1) Information on how to (at this point in time) illegally obtain game files from a company who has stated, as recently as yesterday (Click Here For Chogon) that they still consider this activity illegal.

2) Information that may have been passed privatly (IE PM's) to another member, violating that member's confidentiality.

3) Because this organization has declared publicly that it will not condone illegal activity, nor be a partner in it.

Did I get that right?

Wow. I think I need to go back to bed and get up again. I obviously woke up in a strange and different world this morning, where people think they have a right to sue someone or a group because they DON'T want to break the law........


Go back to sleep Andy. You're fine, no one is threatening to sue anyone, you yourself misread the conversation. The world is still in balance. It's still the way it always has been, on the brink, with good fighting evil all the way, and people only being able to sue someone over spilling hot coffee on themselves.
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Re: DRayX Please explain MOUL Files

Postby Tsar Hoikas » Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:31 pm

I think GPNMilano struck the nail on the head here.
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Re: DRayX Please explain MOUL Files

Postby andylegate » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:52 pm

Zzzzzz.......zzzzzzz........zzzzzz :lol:
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Re: DRayX Please explain MOUL Files

Postby Chacal » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:04 pm

Tsar Hoikas wrote:I think GPNMilano struck the nail on the head here.


Andy is a nail?
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