Is it Possible...

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Is it Possible...

Postby Atrion » Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:32 am

Is there any way that someone could edit/hack "The cleft" to make it look like Descent when they look into the volcano?

If its not possible to do without corrupting the main URU files, is there anyway to Extract the Cleft into Blender to be edited and then exported back to URU as if it was a fan age?
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Re: Is it Possible...

Postby Chacal » Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:53 am

It is entirely possible to add a volcano interior to the cleft.
Not easy, because you would have to:
- import the cleft into Blender so you can make a template that would fit into the interior of the volcano
- model a new interior, with textures. You will find that in the Cleft it is quite smaller than in Myst V, so the result might be disappointing;
- give the scene the same age number as the Cleft, but with a different page number;
- export it in a new prp;
- add it in the age file.

Also you might discover that the current bogus (charred) volcano interior doesn't give you enough room to model a credible interior. I don't remember if this is the case.
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Re: Is it Possible...

Postby diafero » Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:12 am

I seam to remember that GPNMilano once told me that the interiors or the Uru and the Myst V volcano are actually of the same size, but have an offset of a few hundred units, so the prps can't be directly merged. I don't think you would have to scale anything, but the prp->Blender->prp step will will be very lossy.
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Re: Is it Possible...

Postby Paradox » Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:07 pm

The scale is actually identical, so there are no problems there.

The main issue is that the volcano in Uru is much lower poly than the volcano in Myst V. Surprisingly though, many of the vertices of both models match up identically :P
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Re: Is it Possible...

Postby Chacal » Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:05 pm

Oh that's good then. I could have sworn it was much smaller in Uru.
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Re: Is it Possible...

Postby Paradox » Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:09 pm

Chacal wrote:Oh that's good then. I could have sworn it was much smaller in Uru.


Oh, the actual inside of the volcano was much smaller and much lower poly than Uru, but if someone was going to merge them, I assume they would edit the whole volcano mesh to add colliders and make it high poly enough to match up with the Myst V Caldera...
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Re: Is it Possible...

Postby ddb174 » Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:28 pm

Drizzle is capable of translating an entire prp by some distance. It's amazing how many different ways coordinates are stored in Uru ;) But yeah, it's very difficult to merge everything well, plus the resulting Age would be very large. The current solution of jumping in the volcano and linking to DescentMystV is a good one, I think.
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Re: Is it Possible...

Postby Atrion » Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:52 pm

ddb174 wrote:Drizzle is capable of translating an entire prp by some distance. It's amazing how many different ways coordinates are stored in Uru ;) But yeah, it's very difficult to merge everything well, plus the resulting Age would be very large. The current solution of jumping in the volcano and linking to DescentMystV is a good one, I think.


Oh I like how it works now, I was just thinking of much better it could look if when you were standing at the top looking in if you seen more than just darkness, that you could see what was 'actually' there
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Re: Is it Possible...

Postby Charura » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:14 pm

[Oh I like how it works now, I was just thinking of much better it could look if when you were standing at the top looking in if you seen more than just darkness, that you could see what was 'actually' there]


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Re: Is it Possible...

Postby Chacal » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:48 am

Yeah, I thibk what Atrion meant was to have something to look at (possibly a low-poly version of the interior). Then if you jump in, you link to the Myst V interior.
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