Lonirvan:The Challenge

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Re: Lonirvan:The Challenge

Postby gebhartc » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:12 pm

For anyone still struggling with the Playfair Cipher:

The letters accessed at the end of Level 7 serve as the keyword for the cipher. The rest of the blank spaces are filled in with the remaining letters of the alphabet. In the Wikipedia article Korovev posted, it says that I and J are traditionally used as interchangeable to make the alphabet fit a 5x5 grid, however Jhon uses W and V as interchangeable. After filling out the key, the rest of the rules described on Wikipedia can be used to crack the cipher, resulting in a nine digit code in word form. An example of the form would be ON ET WO TH RE E...etc. Both sets of letters work with the key to open the doors to the laboratory.

Great job on the Age, Jhon, and happy URU-ing! :)
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Re: Lonirvan:The Challenge

Postby TrapperDave » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:15 pm

@ gebhartc :lol:
I was just about to comment n this :)
Here's a link to a website with a little program to make it easy!

http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/playfair.php

ahhh the W & V it explains why my spelling was a bit strange ha hah
;) Thanks, gebhartc
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Re: Lonirvan:The Challenge

Postby janaba » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:30 am

Thanks for the awesome hints and tips, gebhartc ... this is really helpful for all who'd like to go for it ... :P

I myself am glad that I had the nerves to read through the playfair website TrapperDave pointed us to lol, and so far I got this lol, I could even decode JFK's message based on a special 'Alphabet Key' and 'Tableau' hihi, but I don't like to go deeper into that stuff ... 8-)

Yeah, however, great, go on having fun, everyone ... Myst/Riven folks love such kind of challenges, you're right, JJ ... :)
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Re: Lonirvan:The Challenge

Postby Annabelle » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:18 am

I'll give it a try today... it should have been named "Playhard". :?

EDIT:

It's no use. This is way too hard. It doesn't work that creepy stuff...

Can someone just post a complete solution?

I mean, that stuff is incomprehensible anyway. It's not even fun! :evil: :evil:

Thanks!
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Re: Lonirvan:The Challenge

Postby TrapperDave » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:47 pm

@ Annabelle :lol: Yeah I know what you mean, esp. when all the clues aren't complete such as switching the I to J > W to V without a clue.
BIG SPOILER > BE WARNED Combination to Lab
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Check this site out to solve PlayFair
http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/playfair.php
First & Second Combination
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And I still have a lot of questions looking for the " Seal"
In the Lab I look in the Microscope & then when I stand up by "ESCP". I am put in flymode & my Ki turns blue.
Is this how we enter the Knight Door in FlyMode? dunno yet
:lol: Have fun if your brain doesn't fry :lol:
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Re: Lonirvan:The Challenge

Postby TrapperDave » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:05 pm

Playfair Code :lol: :(
SECOND CODE BIG SPOILER > BE WARNED don't look if you don't want to
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Have fun everybody.
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Re: Lonirvan:The Challenge

Postby Jhon J. Jaguar » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:37 pm

HEHE...congratulation all. The age is solved now. But i not tell nothing about the sistem for enter in the secret room. Is important you have learn from the first 4 ages of Relto. The microscope have 10 different species, observe all if you will. I hope you have fun with my master age, created for to challenge your great minds. :P
I am started with the Third age, but only in the project......it is very different landscape.

Bye for now....Take care ;)
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Re: Lonirvan:The Challenge

Postby Annabelle » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:11 pm

Thank you very much Dave! You are my saviour :lol:

Finally when you know how this silly webpage works, everything is much easier. ;)

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So there's a way to enter in the secret room, isn't it?

I'll check that out.
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Re: Lonirvan:The Challenge

Postby TrapperDave » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:22 pm

:) You are all welcome!
The 1st code opens the door to little room. The second code opens the stairs on right side platform.
In the lab I read the book about obtaining a "Key" to final or main age.
I dunno if I have that "Key" . I am left with a feeling of emptiness like I didn't find a "Key".
Since I knew about the secret room " Knight Door" I went there to find the door was still closed.
So I am left with the secret room closed.
Puzzled to put it bluntly. But my time is limited because RL work now & I need to check things out more.
I just tried it once.
Annabelle wrote " So there's a way to enter in the secret room, isn't it?
I'll check that out."

Hmm I don't know but wish you good luck, other than offline when I look in Microscope and then stand I am put
in Fly Mode not to my choosing. Dunno if it's a bug or that's the way you go to Secret Room ?
Maybe Jhon can answer or keep us puzzled?
Have fun everyone.
Interesting Age Jhon ! more later :)
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Jhon said: "The age is solved now. But i not tell nothing about the sistem for enter in the secret room."

I think we are not supposed to enter the secret room at this time. As I thought before Jhon plans to bring us back there
from a future Age of his and only exit the room?
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Re: Lonirvan:The Challenge

Postby Jhon J. Jaguar » Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:16 am

Is a little bug. me too i have see this effect with the microscope, but not offline.
But the microscope is only a microscope, an addictional thing who i have create for to use the Plasma scope in a new mode, and for to give a sense to the story and encyclopedia. I have give a indication about the mode for enter in the secret room....remember the first 4 ages of Relto. That is a Bonus Room, but is not a great problem enter in it...you most only think.
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