How to decide which Fan age is first on Moulagain

General debates and discussion about the Guild of Writers and Age creation

Re: How to decide which Fan age is first on Moulagain

Postby Rainforce » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:37 am

Oliver Knowles wrote:[...]As for explorers running around headless, isn't that what Myst/Uru is all about? :)[...]

errr.............................*missed that point completely in all the uru years*
well, I mean we need that library like the nexus or our relto shelf. The best example would be the first journey, because all 4 starting location books are already on relto. other journeys are also in the same place, like the pods and eders (hm, but thats a very relative view on "the same place" :D ).
Anyway, it should be something like that.
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Re: How to decide which Fan age is first on Moulagain

Postby RedSoxFan » Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:09 am

A Writer's Nexus in my Relto would be handy but the option to put my favorites on the shelf would be excellent! So the Nexus in the Writer's Guild would be the first age? If so it should have an age or two available. Maybe if I find the 'Writer's Nexus Relto Page' somewhere I get the Writer's Nexus in my Relto?
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Re: How to decide which Fan age is first on Moulagain

Postby Goofy » Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:42 am

Personally I think that each age owner create a fly through video of their age and let other players decide which is first. As for how we get access to these ages, well a nexus is a great idea, but I had an idea for this awhile back. A new book shelf or shelves would be created in your relto.
if your thinking where would you put it. Well behind the closet. It moves down into the floor revealing a door to another room with 1 floor or more of book shelves just like the shelves we already have.

When I first heard of fan ages. I kinda thought that if a player had the knowledge and skill to create a age, then that player could submit that age and cyan or whomever would check it just to make sure it doesn't cause any problems with the server or ruin any other players game. Basically it won't cause the game servers to crash or the vault to get corrupted. also that it doesn't contradict canon.
Also only that player would have access to the age, unless he/she wanted to share the age. That's where a nexus would come into play. This nexus would be just like the current nexus. But it would be only be for fan ages. If you have ages that you've created then you could set them as public. like we can do with neighborhoods. That way others could come to the fan nexus and check for new ages or the age creator could share their new age with anyone and that person would get the age on their shelves.


I know some probably aren't to worried about this, but think about the RP part as well.(In character).

Either way its done. It should keep the creators wishes in mind.
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Re: How to decide which Fan age is first on Moulagain

Postby Agenotfound » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:05 am

Just a small remark on the Nexus vs Library debate. It could also be completely possible to have something in-between the two: a place where people can meet, move around and that can be expanded and have in this place a Nexus book machine which has a much more practical interface than having books lying around.

Also remember that the Nexus was constructed very late in Dn'i history and that it was not completely open to the general public yet (And was a very advanced piece of technology). The other exiting Nexus-like ages were probably reserved for very specific purposes and meant for the use of a few whereas nexus book machine-like technology is more likely to be found elsewhere.
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Re: How to decide which Fan age is first on Moulagain

Postby Trylon » Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:29 am

There is of course always the possibility of a human designed book picker. It's perfectly possible with todays mechatronic technology to create a book picking machine with a computer interface. We don't need it to be D'ni in design or origin.
I kinda like the idea of a library area that has both shelves and a human built book picking machine. It wouldn't be much of a problem on the scripting to have both.
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Re: How to decide which Fan age is first on Moulagain

Postby Chacal » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:43 pm

Let's just plop one of these in our neighborhood!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tape_library
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Re: How to decide which Fan age is first on Moulagain

Postby Aloys » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:05 pm

It seems like this thread has totally slipped from talking about "Which Fan Age should go first in MOUL" to "Should we access Explorer written Ages through a Nexus or Library"..
I stick to my point that a Nexus (or Library) should still be the first, or at least one of the first fan Age to be released..

Now, continuing on the interesting Library/Nexus debate: why can't we have both at the same time?

Diafero wrote:I would also like to see some kind of library with "real" books. Not those anonymous boxes containing linking books which are all the same - we are speaking about a society built around books, so we should have books
Trylon wrote:Just a small remark on the Nexus vs Library debate. It could also be completely possible to have something in-between the two: a place where people can meet, move around and that can be expanded and have in this place a Nexus book machine which has a much more practical interface than having books lying around.
Yes and Yes. I was always very disappointed that we never had a real library in Uru. Sure we have the City Library, but while it is a very nice looking place it doesn't look at all like a library to me.. In my mind a library must have shelves, dozens of them, categories, with signs and labels, and directions to find your way around.. Of course it would be more or less empty at first but I think it is a good thing, it would entice us to create more Ages to fill those empty shelves.

The Nexus is very useful, but it is also very cold and lonely. A library should be a warm living place, full of light and people chatting about the latest Ages.. (The Nexus seriously gives me the creeps.. ;) ) The only nice thing about the Nexus is that is loads pretty fast. But I think the repository of our Books should be a much more meaningful place, not something purely functionnal.

Then why shouldn't be have both at the same time? Have a library that would also feature Nexus style consoles. The best of both worlds.

Trylon wrote:I have this idea that a well designed and well programmed bookshelves area could be as dynamic as the nexus though. If programmed correctly, it could be filled up dynamically,
That would be great and would solve the problem of updating the Age each time a book is added. If we only need to change a couple SDL variables or something similar, and the new book appears on the shelve, that'd be great.
I really like the idea of having machines, "book pickers". Some libraries on earth already have similar systems. The internal library of France's ministry of finances has one, it's totally rad :D. It would be absolutely awesome to select your book on a console GUI and then see tiny mechanical systems get busy and bring the book to you. :)
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Re: How to decide which Fan age is first on Moulagain

Postby Chuckles58 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:40 pm

Maybe a complex system of conveyors to deliver the books to the various book reading stations, here is a crude diagram of a similar system that might work:
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Re: How to decide which Fan age is first on Moulagain

Postby Whilyam » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:49 am

How best to decide which Age gets in first: Release the source. GoW writes the plugin. First to convert their Age gets the prize.

That or a fight to the death.
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Re: How to decide which Fan age is first on Moulagain

Postby Goofy » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:33 am

pistol at sunset or sunrise Whilyam :lol: 8-)
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